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Love is nothing but pain. Yeah I know what you think that it isn't. But really Love causes you nothing but pain. Mostly when you single. It so effing cool sitting and watching other people make out, hold hands, hugging and never to you. f**k love. I doubt I have a heart from all the people who crushed it in so many effing peices. Yeah so what if I'm crying my eyes out, no one cares. Since when to people care?

Pain is beautiful.

I'm sorry to hear this. Many of us here have gone through the same thing. But things eventually get better, and someday, you will find someone who will not hurt you and who will truly care about you.

Tim

Pain is beautiful in its own unique way, as you also tend to learn a lot from experiencing it. Its not a healthy thing to gravitate towards it purposely though (exclusively). However there must also be a positive side to life in order to correspond with the nature of the universe. No matter how hidden it may seem, it is always there along side the negativity.
Love is an element to the conflict, yet at the same time bond, to this nature, as its part of human emotion.
My suggestion is to find the right person, and dont fall madly in love too soon (I know, this is actually hard for me to do too!), if you dont want your heart to be crushed like this. Theres more of a chance for it to work out this way.

I'm terribly sorry you feel that way, but if you give up now then you'll just feel like this for the rest of your life. At your age most guys don't really want to be in love, so young person relationships rarely work out in the end. Just give it time and one day I'm sure you'll find someone who really loves you.

Pain sucks. Love is worth it.

To know something's worth, you have to have something with which to contrast.

I don't think it's possible to feel the dizzying highs of love without the chance of the crushing lows.

If it doesn't work out, I'd just try to view it as a learning experience.

Perhaps the pain is too much for some to bear. You can trade it for a numbness with very few lows and highs...

I wouldn't make that trade...

No, its possible. You just have to find it, which happens to usually be the hardest thing to find in our lives. Well among one of the many things that is.

Well you can experience just highs, if it works out perfectly, but to give someone a part of yourself... there's always a chance they'll break that part.

That's what makes it so hard to let go and be trusting with someone...

There is no love on this world. Only lust, and a bunch of jerks who pretend love exists to make everyone else feel worse.

Yes, there can be love between two people, but there are a bunch of jerks who pretend love exists to make you feel worse. As in, its something that occurs in your world and a lot of our worlds. It takes an extra effort to realise its possible if you find someone who understands (which is the hardest part). Hard, but possible.

how is it your name is so hard to pronounce or spell, Goatie?
Don't they mostly ask you what the Goat is doing on fire in the first place?

inquiring minds want to know. . .

Merle

Hint:

As you may or may not know, I am an existentialist. So.....

I agree that love is the amalgamation of neurotransmitters that bears no inherent ontological value. This makes it no less meaningful. In fact nothing in this world has any inherent ontological value. All value is epistemologically assigned. Perception is everything. Nothing has meaning unless the consciousness decides it has meaning.

As far as a definition goes, I would define love as a stage of social development in which a person ceases to be motivated by fear or desire. True selflessness is the ultimate goal of human growth. Fear and desire (both inherently selfish) yield conflict and dysfunction whereas as the truly selfless love (described perfectly in the Christian paradigm) yields peace and understanding. As far as a literary citation of this, I encourage everyone to watch the entirety of Wagner's "Der Ring des Nibelungen" as soon as you have 15 hours to spare. The length is not an exaggeration. I know that it's a work of music and drama (i.e. opera) rather than a work of literature, but it is still very apt.

For a similar emotional experience, I recommend listening to the second movement (or the third movement in Symphony No. 9) of any of Beethoven's romantic works (Symphony No. 5 and the Pathétique sonata are my favourites). Or just listen to the whole works, as they all kick ass. Beethoven (being a historical aspie poster child) knew what was up.

Is there a good deal of pain? Yes; emotional attachment is a risk, a huge risk. I took it and got hurt, many times. I got involved with someone you was unwilling to give me the emotional support that I require and still cannot hold very long conversations with said person, despite the fact that we're still friends. It hurts and it blows; there is no way around that.

Love is not inherently pain though. Desire is pain; fear is pain; passion is bliss. Love is completely neutral; you only feel pain because another emotion interferes.



No one can destroy your affections. If you renounce love, then you lose your metaphorical heart. I sight Alberich in Wagner's Ring Cycle.



I care. I will gladly talk to you about this on-line when your on and provide the best solace I can. If it is any consolation, I would probably date you if I were in the same geographical region.

The goat isnt literally on fire its a metaphor.