2 things I can never tell my mother
The first is that I do not think that she would like me very much if I were not her daughter. Don't get me wrong- she clearly loves me quite a lot; what I mean is that of all of the traits she enjoys most, and praises most, in other women (vivacious, talkative, outgoing, self-confident), I have none. I don't think that she has ever noticed this fact, and if I told her she would feel both abused and guilty.
The second is that her need to talk to me and be around both me and my brother in order to be happy is one of the things that made me realize that I do not want to have children. I never want my happiness to be dependent on the behavior of another person. Again, if I told her this she would feel abused and guilty.
There's nothing she or I can do about either thing, and they're huge factors between us, and if I told her either thing I think that it would scar her irreperably.
Please do not be too hard on yourself or your mother. We're all different in our mannerism...what we like...what we dislike.
It's a funny thing about motherhood...you never know how deep your love for your child will grow. It's an amazing thing. Somehow you'll go to hell and back to do anything for your child and not think anything of it.
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I recommend you do tell her. This summer I had a conversation with my friends dad and emphasized the importance of not letting things "stew" and of speaking up when something is bothering you. He said that most times its no where near as bad as you expect it to me. He was mainly referring to something my friend had spoken about, something that bf never thought his dad would accept in a hundred billion trillion years, and something that his dad actually accepted once we spoke to him about it, but I got a lot of personal benefit out of his words
As a result I sent my mom a 7 page email that began:
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Obviously I don t get home much and I might never go back. It s an emotional struggle for me whenever I go there for many reasons. You may have also noticed that I never say I love you on the phone when you say it to me. There s a reason for that I don t love you and I m not sure if I ever could love you, no matter what. Actually I don t even like you. That s not to say that I haven t given you a chance. I have given you a chance, more chances than were healthy for me to give, but when I was giving those chances you didn t want them. And because of that it doesn t matter to be now how nice, kind or accepting you are. It s too late. I don t know for certain if it will always be too late, but now I can t see me ever loving you. This isn t written in anger, or even in hurt for that matter, its just a statement of the way things are and have been for very long.
There are many reasons why I don t love you, why I don t feel comfortable around you, or in your house, why I don t feel safe there. I m just going to start from the beginning. It seems the most logical approach. That s not to say these were the only things that happened in my life, or even that there weren t good periods of time every now and then. But these were significant for many reasons. As I said I don t care how you react to this, I m beyond caring about that. But I do wish you read this entire letter.
It made me feel a lot better to tell her everything (or at least everything I could bear thinking about) that contributed to my current feelings for her. And surprisingly to me she still talks to me though I still have er banned from sending me email and I make no effort whatsoever to talk to her.
I definitely didn't mean to imply that she dosen't love me, or that she has ever been abusive towards me; that is not the case. Things were irreperable between you and your mother, but between me and mine they're not broken, just strained. If I told her these things, I fear that it would break.
It won't if she loves you, I've told a friends dad, a loving dad, that my friend didn't think his dad loved him. He didn't get upset or anything. Just asked me how he could change that
Another thing my friend dad said to me when explaining why he should ahve brought up the topic when it first started bothering him, instead of letting himself be uspet about for 6 months, was that "Things are rarely as bad as you think they will be. Its better to get things that are bothering you out in the open so that they can be dealt with, than letting them eat away at you inside."
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In the end, does it really matter whether you tell her how you feel or not? Will telling her really change anything? Will it be for the betterment of your relationship with her? Is it worth the risk of hurting her and losing her trust?
I'm not sure how old you are, but when we become an adult, we move from home and start our own lives. At this point you get to be what ever you want to be, and really, no one can tell you it's the wrong way. Sure, they can make suggestions, but we all have to make our way, make our own mistakes, correct them and learn to be who we want to be. Really, it's a refinement that will last your entire life.
It sounds like you want your mother in your life, and I think that's great. However, you want it on your terms, and that's fine, too. But remember with relationships must come compromise from time to time.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
In the end, does it really matter whether you tell her how you feel or not? Will telling her really change anything? Will it be for the betterment of your relationship with her? Is it worth the risk of hurting her and losing her trust?
It sounds like it will help her quite a bit by telling her mom this - it will increase her inner happiness and decrease whats bothering her.
And if her mom does love her, as she says she does, her mom won't think anything less of her for it. Her mom will be glad that she is trusted enough to be told these concerns/thoughts. A loving mom would also reassure that there are qualities she loves about her daughter and tell her about those if she felt her daughter was upset by the fact that she didn't value any qualities her daughter has
In the end, does it really matter whether you tell her how you feel or not? Will telling her really change anything? Will it be for the betterment of your relationship with her? Is it worth the risk of hurting her and losing her trust?
I'm not sure how old you are, but when we become an adult, we move from home and start our own lives. At this point you get to be what ever you want to be, and really, no one can tell you it's the wrong way. Sure, they can make suggestions, but we all have to make our way, make our own mistakes, correct them and learn to be who we want to be. Really, it's a refinement that will last your entire life.
It sounds like you want your mother in your life, and I think that's great. However, you want it on your terms, and that's fine, too. But remember with relationships must come compromise from time to time.
I am living on my own, and have been for about a decade. I am not, however, living as my mother would wish: no man, no kids, minimal financial success. That is part of the problem - and this is a reply to TTrees, too: my mother loves me in spite of myself, because she is my mother. I am fairly content with my life, but I don't think that she understands how that could be possible.
Telling her would make her more understanding of who I am, but she would not be able to change who she is and what she likes in other people; it would only make her aware of the fact, and she would see it as a tragedy.
I still must digress. This is very similar to what my friend was saying before we talked with his dad. He only lives there over college breaks, but I'm quite certain he expected to be kicked out of home for telling his dad about this thing and how important it was to him.
Once I spoke logically with his dad (I asked to speak to him alone), his dad said that if it was okay with his mom he could be that way in the house. Then they spoke and called us into the room, and said, "I understand this will make you happy. So you can do it." And that was it. My friend had been tearing himself up inside for at least 6 months over fear of telling his dad about this, probably longer but I didn't know him before then, so convinced his dad would hate for this. And that wasn't even remotely the case.
i completely understand what you are saying. i deal with the exact same thing with my mother (she adds thin and stylish to her list of valued traits). it breaks my heart every time she describes someone she clearly admires becase that i know that description is no where close to me. i don't have any advice for you, but i do know how it feels.
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1. That I finally understand why she was such a bad parent. (That would start World War 3)
2. That I have discovered that she has Borderline Personality Disorder. ( She would take it as an insult, and then proceed to "insult" me back.)
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1. It perturbs her that I can never understand how to be spontaneous
2. She is angry although she will not admit it that I have chosen not
to have children.(doing my best to break the chain of eccentricity
in my immediate family)
I love my mom dearly, and am trying not to plan so much ...but with my personal experience of life with Aspergers, I could never wish the confusion and isolation on another human being.
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My bf is like that. He tells his mother everything.
I on the other hand tell his father everything, even things that no parent should ever be told/asked, but he doesn't seem bothered by it so I keep on going.
The second is that her need to talk to me and be around both me and my brother in order to be happy is one of the things that made me realize that I do not want to have children. I never want my happiness to be dependent on the behavior of another person. Again, if I told her this she would feel abused and guilty.
There's nothing she or I can do about either thing, and they're huge factors between us, and if I told her either thing I think that it would scar her irreperably.
She probobly points out these characteristics to praise not because she loves them so much but because they are things she feels you should develop. Like if I want someone to study math, I'll say, oh wow Einstein was so cool blah blah (but it has no bearing on how I actually feel about Einstein he is nothing, just a prop)
also her happiness dependent on you? that is a lovely thing and not something you would follow directly. It is much better than the alternative, a parent who hates being around you and lets you know it which is what many people deal with! Again I'm sure you would find that this is also something she does out of love. I don't think it should be something between you at all, just one of the side effects of love
Please don't let that put you off having children, as they are so cool. Now that you have been able to identify some of the things mothers shouldn't do, surely that would be a good start towards being a good parent yourself?
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