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Belfast wrote:
Tool-like one song, I think.
Yeah, what I tend to like about it is that whole getting loss and tumbling into a rather spiritual-edged analysis of our reality, Maynard bends both world real well almost seemlessly, and he's got that sort of sadistic sense of sarcasm and wordplay threaded through it all. Genious on a lot of levels and really gets the right kind of emotional grit as well as having another element that I really love when its done right - its really somber isht.
Belfast wrote:
Alice in Chains-like the 3 'hits' from "Jar of Flies".
I think the songs I like most by em are Down In A Whole, Rain When I Die, Rooster, Sludge Factory, Again, Junkhead, pretty much the more intense and immersive tracks from Dirt and AIC self-titled. Again, I love the emotional immersiveness, their taste in tone, Layne's voice of course (RIP), and that sense of dyspohoria. Especially when you listen to the emotional vibe of Down in a Whole you really feel like your getting into the heart and soul of somoene who's life's rotting out from under them and you get the full sense of that sort of darkness - don't know why I crave that sort of emotionality other than the fact that it just feels real, realler than anything, and it just does a lot for me when its done in a very un-sweetened way that you rarely here.
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Sublime-I forget who they are, but I think my boyfriend really likes them.[/qoute]
Well, be prepared to give that one a while to soak in if you do listen to them. Hopefully he has Sublime - Gold which is a bit of all 3 of their cds. At first it might sound like its nothing you'd even come close to liking - a poppy mix of raggae and commershy sounding punk rock. But then when you hear the lyrics to some of the songs, here how much grime and subject matter goes into it, and then a lot of the expertise in the trip-effects that go into it, you start to really get why people like them as much as they do. Another thing I really love about em, while they'll have real grimy lyrical content Brad'll throw up this sort of euphemism all over everything which ends up being echoed in the beats.
You'll also notice there are a lot of tracks that are just extremely multilayer - in terms of the mental places they put you. One of the songs that I always end up getting stuck in my head or singing to myself is Jailhouse, not that there aren't a lot of other tracks they do that are really great. Also, they do a rediculously good job of mixing very authentic raggae sounds with the rock, I mean like at the end of Scarlet Begonias it sounds like the part of Belly when DMX is in Kingston estates visiting his mentor, Brad actually breaks out some vocals where you can tell that he's really lost in the raggae aspect of it, and not to mention they're tracks are anything but static - they bounce all over the place.
Yeah, my two favorite cds are Last Rights and VIVISectVI, Mind is good too (Stairs and Flowers cracks me up). What I really love about SP though is the choice of sound palate, presentation, lyrics, ie. its the end emotion and energy - its just of a flavor that I really like once again (makes me surprised you aren't as much of a Tool fan - you'll have to listen to Undertow or Aenima end to end so we can take care of that
, then again I know that I really wasn't that impressed with Tool until I heard whole albumns and really 'got' where they were coming from and how it was meant to be heard). As far as VIVISectVI I love Harsh Stone White myself as well as SKUMM, Pat on the Back, Testure, and Yes He Ran's real sick and catchy as well. If you haven't heard Last Rights though that's probably their best ever, you've gotta get around to that.
I will admit, all I've really heard is Dos Dedos, really like that cd though. What I heard of their other stuff on Amazon though, they're earlier stuff had more of a disco'ish 80's twang than what I'm really into.
Well, be prepared to give that one a while to soak in if you do listen to them. Hopefully he has Sublime - Gold which is a bit of all 3 of their cds. At first it might sound like its nothing you'd even come close to liking - a poppy mix of raggae and commershy sounding punk rock. But then when you hear the lyrics to some of the songs, here how much grime and subject matter goes into it, and then a lot of the expertise in the trip-effects that go into it, you start to really get why people like them as much as they do. Another thing I really love about em, while they'll have real grimy lyrical content Brad'll throw up this sort of euphemism all over everything which ends up being echoed in the beats.
You'll also notice there are a lot of tracks that are just extremely multilayer - in terms of the mental places they put you. One of the songs that I always end up getting stuck in my head or singing to myself is Jailhouse, not that there aren't a lot of other tracks they do that are really great. Also, they do a rediculously good job of mixing very authentic raggae sounds with the rock, I mean like at the end of Scarlet Begonias it sounds like the part of Belly when DMX is in Kingston estates visiting his mentor, Brad actually breaks out some vocals where you can tell that he's really lost in the raggae aspect of it, and not to mention they're tracks are anything but static - they bounce all over the place.
Belfast wrote:
Skinny Puppy-I used to be huge fan of them in high school (around 1990), so am familiar with much of their stuff from around that time ("Stairs & Flowers", "Dig It", "Harsh Stone White"). Especially fond of 9 minute instrumental track "Download" that's just a rumbling droning noise.
Yeah, my two favorite cds are Last Rights and VIVISectVI, Mind is good too (Stairs and Flowers cracks me up). What I really love about SP though is the choice of sound palate, presentation, lyrics, ie. its the end emotion and energy - its just of a flavor that I really like once again (makes me surprised you aren't as much of a Tool fan - you'll have to listen to Undertow or Aenima end to end so we can take care of that
, then again I know that I really wasn't that impressed with Tool until I heard whole albumns and really 'got' where they were coming from and how it was meant to be heard). As far as VIVISectVI I love Harsh Stone White myself as well as SKUMM, Pat on the Back, Testure, and Yes He Ran's real sick and catchy as well. If you haven't heard Last Rights though that's probably their best ever, you've gotta get around to that. Belfast wrote:
Pop Will Eat Itself-like a bunch of their things with samples, incl. "Token Drug Song", "Can You Dig It", "There's No Love Between Us" and more.
I will admit, all I've really heard is Dos Dedos, really like that cd though. What I heard of their other stuff on Amazon though, they're earlier stuff had more of a disco'ish 80's twang than what I'm really into.
Belfast wrote:
Suggestions of artists (mostly not new, but I recommend):
Fluke (CD I'm crazy about is "Risotto")
Thievery Corporation
Crystal Method ("Tweekend" is consistently groovy CD)
Tosca
Banco De Gaia
Krueder & Dorfmeister
Timo Maas ("Shifter" is kinda' tech-y rap song I listened to repeatedly, learning the lyrics)
Lo Fidelity Allstars ("Vision Incision" is hypnotically catchy song)
Spirit Firechild (never heard of them except for one recent song, "Rattle the Fear", pretty neat)
Rob Dougan (am obsessed with his track "Clubbed to Death" as it's been used all over the place-have only heard his stuff without lyrics/vocals, however).
and of course you're likely familiar with:
Doubtingthomas (a Skinny Puppy side project, I believe-"Father Don't Cry" & "Infidel" are EPs)
Pigface
Killing Joke
Revolting C**ks
Beastie Boys are still going
Consolidated
DJ Shadow
Underworld
Delerium (Front 242 or Frontline Assembly side project)
Recoil (ex-post-Depeche Mode)
If these are too "beepity-boppity" (synth-y & insufficiently aggressive) for your preferences, then disregard. If enough of these seem near the mark, lemme' know & I'll list more.
Fluke (CD I'm crazy about is "Risotto")
Thievery Corporation
Crystal Method ("Tweekend" is consistently groovy CD)
Tosca
Banco De Gaia
Krueder & Dorfmeister
Timo Maas ("Shifter" is kinda' tech-y rap song I listened to repeatedly, learning the lyrics)
Lo Fidelity Allstars ("Vision Incision" is hypnotically catchy song)
Spirit Firechild (never heard of them except for one recent song, "Rattle the Fear", pretty neat)
Rob Dougan (am obsessed with his track "Clubbed to Death" as it's been used all over the place-have only heard his stuff without lyrics/vocals, however).
and of course you're likely familiar with:
Doubtingthomas (a Skinny Puppy side project, I believe-"Father Don't Cry" & "Infidel" are EPs)
Pigface
Killing Joke
Revolting C**ks
Beastie Boys are still going
Consolidated
DJ Shadow
Underworld
Delerium (Front 242 or Frontline Assembly side project)
Recoil (ex-post-Depeche Mode)
If these are too "beepity-boppity" (synth-y & insufficiently aggressive) for your preferences, then disregard. If enough of these seem near the mark, lemme' know & I'll list more.
Yeah, I have picked through the last half pretty well. As for the first list, don't worry too much about the electric stuff - like I've mentioned I'm so immersed in jungle/drum&bass that I pretty much know what's good out there more than what most people would really consider healthy
. Trance and techno, haven't really played with that as much as I have in the past just because even then I was real picky and it took a very specific kind of sound to get me going (deep and somber trance like John '00' Fleming, harder more dysphoric techno from guys like Chris Liberator and Dave the Drummer, or guys who do a bit of both blended together - Mark EG and then another guy who I WISH TO GOD that I could get a mixtape by named Red Commie Bastard, I saw him back in 1999 and I'll never hear another dj set with sicker tech-trance than that or even making that same grade, NEVER).
However I would be down for trying something new in terms of stuff thats on the whole experimental/trip-hop. Already know Massive Attack and Tricky pretty well. Also Faithless, LOVE Maxi Jazz's lyrics and intelligence.
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Yog-Sothoth wrote:
Oh yeah, I get where you're coming from, but the first thing that comes to my head now is Alice In Chains, and I think you mentioned them already. If its instrumental, then go for Arch Enemy. If its vocal, give Type O Negative a shot. Arch Enemy makes some very melodic but heavy as balls music, and their singer is just intense. Type O Negative is like a less grunge version of AIC. Mushroomhead is also good if you can get into it, they have a very unique style. While your at it, you might as well check out Nevermore, but I'm just trying to think of bands with less growly vocals, cause that doesn't sound like your thing.
Yeah, I used to listed to Typo back when Bloody Kisses and October Rust were big, though anymore I can't even listen to October Rust - used to love it but its almost kind of embarassing off the cheese (just like I used to LOVE Suicidal Tendencies, can't touch that anymore either). Don't know much on Arch Enemy, could check them out. Mushroomhead though, do look at my tag "Cleveland Audio Assassin" - hehehe, of course I know who Mushroomhead is - I'm from their home town bichizzz!!
, they had another project on the side as well called 216, don't know if that's around anymore but somewhat similar style.
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