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flamingjune
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03 Aug 2004, 6:31 pm

Does anyone use sign language as a secondary form of communication?
Often I find that although I have something to say the larger problem is in the act of being able to physically speak them, most often when I'm agitated or uncomfortable. So I started looking into learning sign language. I know a few people who know the manual language and using it is comfortable for me, but fingerspelling is time consuming and slightly confusing.
I figured I'd see if anyone else found it useful before I go off obsessively spending large sums of money on instruction.



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03 Aug 2004, 7:11 pm

I don't use sign language. (That reminds me of this commercial my mom told me about with a deaf boy and this neighbor woman who learns sign language but gets "pie" and "dog" confused. It leads to something the woman says to the boy in sign language..."I baked a dog for you.")

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03 Aug 2004, 7:18 pm

Mich wrote:
I don't use sign language. (That reminds me of this commercial my mom told me about with a deaf boy and this neighbor woman who learns sign language but gets "pie" and "dog" confused. It leads to something the woman says to the boy in sign language..."I baked a dog for you.")

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Ack! I'm afraid of that as well. Although most anyone I would be signing to would be learning with me, I'm still nervous I'll do somethng embarassing like that!



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03 Aug 2004, 8:32 pm

flamingjune wrote:
Mich wrote:
I don't use sign language. (That reminds me of this commercial my mom told me about with a deaf boy and this neighbor woman who learns sign language but gets "pie" and "dog" confused. It leads to something the woman says to the boy in sign language..."I baked a dog for you.")

:!: Mich :?:

Ack! I'm afraid of that as well. Although most anyone I would be signing to would be learning with me, I'm still nervous I'll do somethng embarassing like that!


I'm not afraid of that! I think it's funny, in a weird way!

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05 Aug 2004, 8:45 pm

I am a little hard-of-hearing (maybe I have 10% or 15% hearing loss), and I do know the manual alphabet which I learned on my own, as I have had a few deaf friends in my life. I also know a few signs.

There is an interpreter at my church, and I have considered learning sign language for the times when I cannot hear, understand, or lipread the priest. I did ask about this on a Deaf message board, and they told me that unless if I was going to sign in every-day life, that I shouldn't go through the trouble of learning to be a fluent signer.

One time I was at Mass and we had a priest who was Latino or Indian. He had a very heavy accent and I couldn't read his lips. I couldn't understand a damned thing he said and had to ask a friend at church to tell me what the priest said. I recall that I gave up trying to understand the priest, and dozed off.

I do know how to lipread, except I find it tiresome and hate it when I have to rely on lipreading alone.



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05 Aug 2004, 9:13 pm

hilarythebaker wrote:
I am a little hard-of-hearing (maybe I have 10% or 15% hearing loss), and I do know the manual alphabet which I learned on my own, as I have had a few deaf friends in my life. I also know a few signs.

There is an interpreter at my church, and I have considered learning sign language for the times when I cannot hear, understand, or lipread the priest. I did ask about this on a Deaf message board, and they told me that unless if I was going to sign in every-day life, that I shouldn't go through the trouble of learning to be a fluent signer.

My only hearing problem is that volume flucuates for me constantly. My main thing is that I just rarely speak outloud. It's not because I don't have anything to say because I do, I just have extreme difficulty with the physical act of speaking.
I also seem to like the fact that when I sign people aren't looking at me, they're looking at my hands. But fingerspelling can be extremely time consuming if I'm out and I need to tell someone something. That's a downfall for me since I tend not to want to take up that much of someone's time when we're supposed to be out enjoying something.



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06 Aug 2004, 6:20 am

just for some info. I went to the autism conference at Penn State the other day and did learn this:

signing and gesturing do help your procesing of information (learned this at the apraxia lecture) So for a non vocal learner you teach sign and as they learn to talk; the child continues to sign and talks at the same time, you then fade the signing. This helps with both receptive and expressive speech.

so; for a young child to learn sign as they are learning language is a good thing and not a waste of time

but on the other hand: as you get older sign is not very easy ( fast and easy to learn) and many people do not understand it-

is there another way that you can communicate without speaking or using/learning sign????
Is this a motor planning problem that you are having???
Maybe you could get an alpha smart or other device to have in case you need it?? ( I do not know your age, you may not be comfortable with this)

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18 Aug 2004, 4:09 am

Makaton signing [a system as opposed to a language] is used frequently with non-verbal autistic children in New Zealand. Its handy to be familiar with!



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18 Aug 2004, 11:58 am

I once took an ASL course and loved it. I have not had a chance to take it in school though and prob. won't, but I try to teach it to myself at home via internet. I one trained a deaf dog through ASL - the turnout was awesome and it was so much fun, and he was adopted from the shelter!



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28 Aug 2004, 12:46 am

I know a limited amount of sign language and I use it simultaneous to verbal language. I find it's less difficult to give visual cues and body language cues.... less frightening, anyway.... if I'm signing along with what I'm saying. I know I'm doing something appropriate, even if no one else understands me.


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28 Aug 2004, 12:58 pm

flamingjune wrote:
Does anyone use sign language as a secondary form of communication?
Often I find that although I have something to say the larger problem is in the act of being able to physically speak them, most often when I'm agitated or uncomfortable. So I started looking into learning sign language. I know a few people who know the manual language and using it is comfortable for me, but fingerspelling is time consuming and slightly confusing.
I figured I'd see if anyone else found it useful before I go off obsessively spending large sums of money on instruction.


I have found that receptively sign language is just as difficult as spoken language, because it comes and goes with the same speed as spoken language. I have forgotten a lot of the expressive vocabulary, and it truly is a whole new language. One thing to consider, too, is that the sign language you learn will likely only work in some English-speaking countries and not others. American Sign Language is closely related to French Sign Language, for instance, but is not related to British Sign Language.

I and some other autistics with significant speech trouble have found that what has worked best for us is to carry a text-to-speech (TTS) device around with us at all times, or, if we cannot afford one, a smallish wordprocessing device such as an AlphaSmart. Some use these things full-time and others part-time. (I had been experiencing a decrease in communicative speech abilities over time, so I started out part-time but eventually went to full-time.) The lowest-tech alternative, of course, being pen and paper (and I've heard of some people using chalk and a slate, although those people weren't autistic). It can be possible to get insurance to cover a text-to-speech device, but I have seen them occasionally for as low as $180USD or less on eBay (I got one for $180 that had more features than the one my insurance paid over $1000 for, but I only would've paid about $75 if it hadn't been for a last-minute bidder). I can give you different names and websites for such devices if you want more information; there are many.



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29 Aug 2004, 3:29 pm

I've always wanted to learn sign language even if just to communicate with my kids so I don't have to speak aloud and draw attention to myself (and them) in the grocery store or other public places. Just a few choice, meaningful phrases, like STOP TEASING YOUR SISTER THIS MINUTE OR YOU'LL SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN YOUR ROOM! :o
Sign language would even come in handy at home when the radio or Playstation volume is too high. :wink:



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30 Aug 2004, 7:47 pm

i know the alphabet and a few words and phrases like "i love you" and "poop" hahaha.

i've always wanted to learn more. you can just buy a sign langauge dictionary. they should have them at any bookstore.


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01 Sep 2004, 12:39 am

I know sign language. I can say "Give Way", "No Smoking", and "Danger: Hazardous Chemicals!"...

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05 Sep 2004, 2:24 pm

I have always been very interested in ASL and found it came very naturally to me. When I was a kid I tried to teach myself sign language from a sign language dictionary. I am taking a class on it right now at my college. The teacher is deaf, and everyone is forbidden to talk outloud in class! Most people don't like that, but I love it! I am learning fast! I sort of wish I could be an elective mute and communicate only in sign language.

I also worked at a school with a little boy with autism. He could talk very well, but I taught him some sign langauge anyway. Sometimes using signs with him worked better to get his attention. I just used simple signs such as stop, sit, wait, more, walk, and stuff like that. He liked it a lot. He also taught himselves the signs for the days of the week!

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04 Oct 2005, 10:19 pm

I'm learning American Sign Language now.^_^I'm hoping to help out with deaf and/or non-verbal kids.


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