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Ziyaret
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01 Nov 2007, 10:26 am

That more men would prefer to be seen in public with a beautiful woman that to actually sleep with one if they had to choose.
I certainly fall into that category and Im not sure why. It doesnt really matter what outer clothing a woman wears as far as sex goes since she'll be taking them off anyway. But I'd really love the oppertunity to have some "arm candy".



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01 Nov 2007, 10:36 am

Eh, I must be that small exception. I'd rather be seen in public with the one I love, and even then, I have this large aversion to public displays of affection, whether it's with my supposed future partner or other couples. I just think it's kind of rude to publicly display affections like that. It's kind of like rubbing some poor unlucky bastard's nose into the fact he's single/just got dumped/sucks at dating/etc. Then again, I've been known to be too emphatic for my own good.


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01 Nov 2007, 11:37 am

To be honest, I think if I thought any boyfriend I had saw me in that way, I would dump him. Girls tend not to take kindly to the idea that you're only in it to be seen with them... and with good reason I think!



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01 Nov 2007, 12:11 pm

Well what I wonder is why men dont usually object to being viewed that way. I think a lot of people are view their partners in a superficial kinda way-especially when they're young.Usually its women who seek out "trophy boyfriends". For a woman to be seen on the arm of a high status male makes her seem high status. Thats why women go for high status men; to raise their own status by association. The cynical part of me wants to say: To a man, a woman is a sex toy; to a woman, a man is a status symbol.
I dont want a gf just to show off to others, I want the whole package. But seeing well-dressed(or sexy-dressed)women with their bf's out in public makes me think "I want that too! Why cant I have a gf who dresses like that??".



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01 Nov 2007, 12:17 pm

sarahstilettos wrote:
To be honest, I think if I thought any boyfriend I had saw me in that way, I would dump him. Girls tend not to take kindly to the idea that you're only in it to be seen with them... and with good reason I think!


Obviously there's more to it than that. Obviously I want a woman who will I can have a long-lasting relationship with.

However, when it comes down to these two "options" that are included, if you were allowed to pick one and only one to go with this relationship, I can see why many men would want the former... being seen with a woman is likely to get a man compliments regardless of how attractive the woman is, which is apparently important in society for self-esteem purposes. Also, men have it much easier in hand usage, meaning that any man skilled enough can be in a relationship with a woman without needing it to be sexual.



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01 Nov 2007, 12:20 pm

I don't get out much, so where would I take my "arm candy"? Out to the mailbox?



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01 Nov 2007, 12:20 pm

I wouldn't tend to have such a low opinion of people. Men or women. Dating someone to raise my status by association seems to me like a massive waste of time time and energy, and I'm pretty sure most people would say the same thing.

Oh and I think men feel just as insulted by being used as arm candy.



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01 Nov 2007, 12:56 pm

You're right sarahstilettos, they certainly would say that but I doubt most people would be honest about this sorta thing.
I always thought men were mostly after sex and women were mostly after status. A men who wished to raise his status is expected to go out and accomplish something. A woman seeking status can do the former, but for a lot less effort she can try to get herself a "trophy bf".

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However, when it comes down to these two "options" that are included, if you were allowed to pick one and only one to go with this relationship, I can see why many men would want the former... being seen with a woman is likely to get a man compliments regardless of how attractive the woman is, which is apparently important in society for self-esteem purposes.


Well said 8). But sarahstilettos, you're position makes a lot of sense. You'd prefer a man who's secure enough of himself that he wouldnt feel the need for a trophy gf. I like the same in women but man, thats much harder to find because a lot women-ESPECIALLY in their 20s(and even their 30s)are very insecure and expect the man to provide the security in the relationship.



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01 Nov 2007, 1:09 pm

I think the basic dispute here rests on how high an opinion you have of the human race. I guess I believe most people are fundamentally good if flawed. You seem to think I'm naive. I think you're far too cynical. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween.

All the women I'm friends with would have too much pride to lean on a boyfriend for status, maybe that says something about the kind of people I'm friends with... but there are enough people like that out there for me to build a circle of friends out of them.