Gaza Pullout

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What do you guys think of this? I think this is stupidest thing to happen Israel so far. Why can't they just share their land with the Palestinians? Ariel Sharon is too emotional to comment on this piece of stupidity. More here.

wtf?

Thanks spitfire, for shrinking your avatar.

As eamonn commented, when its large, your post can not be read.

I agree with it. They should pull out of the west bank and east jerusalem as well. Then if they still get regular suicide bombings they should build a massive wall around Israel with barbed wire and surveilance.

Ok, so I could or might agree, but they need to sort out the militants that are targeting the Israelis. Y'see, Al-Qaeda is also against Israelis. Where will them poor settlers go? Damn, I am making this so confusing to say.

I think that is the most ret*d national security decision since Czechoslovakia allowed Hitler to annex the Sudetenland, and yes, I think that is a fair comparison. Palestine is not content with just the West Bank, they want all of Israel too and Israel just gave away their buffer zone. Most of Israel is a thin strip of land along the Mediterranean. This means that in the event of an Invasion, the Israelis will have no place to fall back and mount a counteroffensive, so they will be unlikely to have and course of action available to them except for nuclear retaliation.

There's a Russian proverb that goes something like this: "Extend a finger to a rabid dog, and it'll bite off your whole arm". The same thing is with Gaza. Israel gave in to the militants, and withdrew settlers. Pretty soon, Hamas and Islamic Jihad will start demanding the West Bank, then East Jerusalem, then Israel proper (the Jewish part). Sharon made a very dangerous mistake.

The people of Israel have been fighting over the land in the Gaza Strip for years. I don't think it's going to happen.

I dont feel atall sorry for the landgrabbers. Its about time they felt what it was like to be moved out of their house and forced to move elsewhere. At least they got notice and compensation unlike the people they took the land off of.

The issue about security is a nonsense. It is less safe to have to protect settlers that are close to palestinians. If the israelis want a buffer zone they should have it in their own land not others.

I realise that some palestinians wouldnt be happy till no Israelis exist but taking over peoples land by force is unnaceptable and when it comes to palestine it wasnt about security. It was about expansionism.

A simple solution would be for everyone to abandon the Gaza Strip. That, or turn it into some kind of city. I didn't hear much about it (don't watch TV), but it sounds like what they're doing is a bad idea.

Palestinians and Arabs in general are taught from birth to kill and loathe Jews, as well as Americans. In fact, one of the rituals of a male birth in "Palestine" is to have the infant suckle on the barrel of a gun, before it suckles on the mother's breast.

The people cannot coexist when one is taught that they will have 70 virgins or some such nonsense for killing a Jew.

If you watch the news, you will see that the Palestinians are considering the pull out a victory and are telling their own people that the Jews are weak and that they have won the battle. That isn't diplomatic language, nor is it conducive to reconcilliation. Their own leaders are speaking such nonsense.

Arabs are descended from Esau (who was a hunter and war-like) and the Jews are descended from Jacob (whose name means beauty) and just as Jacob and Esau were forever at odds, though blood brothers, they were still commanded to love one other, and so are the Arabs and the Jews commanded.

It is hard for any of us to judge when we do not live there. Although it pains many Israelis to give up the land, which people have died to hold, the majority feel it is worth it if it stops the terror. The sad thing is that I don't believe it will, because you cannot concede to Arabs and Muslims in general, for they see that as a weakness. This is their culture, which is already being displayed in front of the world. That strip of land won't make a bit of difference to "Palestine's" economy, nor it's people, but it might just keep Israelis safer than they are and I think any one of us would be willing to trade a strip of land for some peace of mind.

Tallgirl.

Israel should just get its butt out of Palestinian territory. Israelis are watering their lawns while Palestinian kids are going thirsty. Tallgirl, you have been sadly misinformed about Arab culture. I have lots of Arab friends and NONE of them have heard of such things.

Sadly, I am not misinformed. I have many Arab friends (7 to be exact) also and studied the Palestinian culture extensively during college. I have heard the first hand accounts and I encourage you to study the Arab culture in depth, from resident Arabs, and not from Westernized Arabs. Are your Arab friends from Palestine? Have they lost relatives in the struggle? Have they themselves engaged or lived within that culture? I suspect not. One of my mentors in college was an anthropologist and studied the Palestinians, in Palestine throughout his career, and he brought back recordings of Palestinian people saying the things I metioned.

Palestinians are a fictional race or ethnicity. They were invented by the West. However, Israel was not invented and neither was the Hebrew nation.

You are sadly misinformed.

Tallgirl.

Yet more racist clap-trap.

someone else posted that using "I", or "in my experience" in posts, which makes it valid in one's experience, but isn't necessarily carved in stone as the Absolute Truth. might i suggest that this would be useful here? obviously, people from Jewish and Arab/Palestinian backgrounds will have very different experiences, and i think it's useful to hear both, to listen to someone else's experience. we don't have to agree with either.

Yes, it is terrible, especially since they had been fighting over land in the Gaza Strip for years. This assures them that they are not going to get it.