Why would you want to know if you have AS/AT and why pay $?

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18 Dec 2007, 8:20 pm

If i have something I dont need to have some rediculously expensive doctor or psychologist tell me I have it.

I can study up on an issue and self-determine what I have more then any doctor can, and I know myself better then any doctor/psychologist could

why would someone pay someone hard earned-money to tell you have this when they can offer no cure or treatment this is with you for life.

you are who you are and nothing is going to change that, its better to live a day Not talkin about asperger's/autism then it is to harp on it everyday and come to a forum or community like this

seriously my best days in life or wHEN I DONT even care about aspergers its th LAST thing on my mind and who the hell wants to think about it all the time ask urself this?

WHY think enegatively an let it beat you down, we shoulde celebrate what we like to do and go to a forum or community of things we like an are good at being here is depressing an rediculous if u realy thinka bout it you don't have to make this apart of your life is what im saying

ignorance is bliss an tahts why NO NT PPL like to talk about this because its just not a fun conversation to have talkin about autism or asperger is prolly one of the least fun things to talk about an associate urself with

all im sayin is THERE no point in spending money on treatment an doctors if nothing works

there is no point in gettin a diagnosis just fatten up some doctor/psychologists wallet an the drug companies who try to say u have other problems an need this med an this med for life which will never cure you but keep u stable

if drug companies really cared u know what they would do? THEY WOULD MAKE CURE THT U TAKE ONCE AN UR FIXED, its alot easier to make billions of dollar when u got someone taking a pill every week instead of that isn't it?

Think about it guys, dou think doctors an psychologists want u or me to get betteR? Do u think that serves there best interest or does keeping us sick so they can milk us dry sound like much more likely outcome?

Its not that i dont believe in doctors or diagnosis for things that can be 100% cured cuz i dont if i get sick i want to go to a doctor an get medicine to get better

but if im autistic/AP there is no reason to go because there is literally nothing that can be done an ppl think there is cuz they have hope that everythin can be fixed but im tellin u all right now THIS CANNOT BE FIXED it soemthin we have to live with an thats final there is no cure or fix or med's that make it better, the meds that make it better are lies trust me I have been on them all an they made my life worse not better he treatments made me feel worse not better, if i could erase every treatment an med ive taken in my life i would do so with a heart beat

if i could flip a switch an make my brain NT i would in a heartbeat I want to fit in I WANT TO BE part of the society an doctor/psychologists are NOT doing anythin to help cure me an flip the switch they are just milkin me dry of my money



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18 Dec 2007, 8:28 pm

I believe in the US the cost of getting tested for AS is around $3000.


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if i could flip a switch an make my brain NT i would in a heartbeat I want to fit in I WANT TO BE part of the society an doctor/psychologists are NOT doing anythin to help cure me an flip the switch they are just milkin me dry of my money


It's your fault for giving them your money.



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18 Dec 2007, 8:33 pm

Mw99 wrote:
I believe in the US the cost of getting tested for AS is around $3000.



It's your fault for giving them your money.


well first off 3000 dollars isn't exactly chump change that you can throw around thats a pretty big saving's that could be better spent on something i want or need in life rthen a diagnosis

and i didn't give them money my parents did even when I told them nothing will work



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18 Dec 2007, 8:36 pm

I agree on wondering why exactly someone would spend money to diagnose themselves if they have already came to their own logical conclusion.

But on ignoring it - you can't help a problem by doing that.

For example, when I learned about Asperger's Syndrome, I realized there was a name for many of my own collective odities, and I noticed more I hadn't before. I was able to figure out why exactly I stood out from everyone else so much, and was able to change some of my behaviors, as in learn to be (a bit) sociable and make friends easier.
This forum is for discussing the aspects of it, and coping with it. It's like a support-group - inherently it will seem negative, but it can be useful.



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18 Dec 2007, 8:39 pm

ProtossX wrote:

there is no point in gettin a diagnosis just fatten up some doctor/psychologists wallet an the drug companies who try to say u have other problems an need this med an this med for life which will never cure you but keep u stable

Think about it guys, dou think doctors an psychologists want u or me to get betteR? Do u think that serves there best interest or does keeping us sick so they can milk us dry sound like much more likely outcome?


I agree.


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18 Dec 2007, 9:28 pm

I thought a diagnoses doesn't cost that much depending on where you are. My last boyfriend told me it's going to cost him $300 to get a official diagnoses. I don't think he spent any money on when he went to three doctors for it or he would have said something about it.


If I was never diagnosed, the reason why I would go is because I want to see if I have it or not because I am not sure. That's one of the reasons why people go because they are suspecting they have it but aren't sure. If AS fits you off and on depending on what you're reading about it, of course you're not going to know if you have it or not.


Another reason why people get diagnosed is because they will get on disability for it or so they will get the education they need like getting more time on their work and tests, getting extra help, and maybe it's so they have proof they have it when they tell people of their condition so their boss or teachers will understand them better because anyone could just say they have a condition just so they can get different treatment or have excuses for not getting something done. Unfortunitly people with disabilities abuse their label too so it makes it harder on the innocent ones who do try to inform people of their AS so they would be understood better but instead they get "Don't use your autism as an excuse" crap because so many people have done it.



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18 Dec 2007, 10:06 pm

I totally agree that you or anyone else should not have to pay, to be able to understand who they are.

But feel its important to have an accurate diagnosis, for several reasons.

Firstly, if you don't have Aspergers Syndrome, but something else, it affects what you can do to help yourself (although there is a big overlap between AS and several other disorders/ learning problems etc).

Also, it is helpful for family and friends if they are interested about finding out things for themselves and ASD can run in families, so if not for yourself its worth being diagnosed for the next generation.

Plus may find out about other common problems like food sensitivities/ intolerance that are obviously good to be aware of, and various associated conditions you may have and what treatment (usually at a cost) may be available to you.


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19 Dec 2007, 12:28 am

I filed for SSI for marfans. During the process they concluded that I have AS and marfans. Entire Process didn't cost me anything. If you don't count that I couldn't work during the 7 month period. But apparently I still don't qualify for any assistance. This country sucks.


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22 Dec 2007, 5:59 pm

If you have good insurance they cover a very high percentage of the care. I think I pay between $15-20 per session. Not bad at all. If you need medication, then it may be beneficial to see a behavioral psychologist and a psychiatrist as a specialist. But even then your bill, with the medication, would still be at or below $100 total per month, if you see both of them once a month.

And this isn't a lifelong thing, if you get a good psychologist, who actively targets and treats symptoms systematically, then it wouldn't be a very long "treatment" (I use that word with caution) process at all, relative of course. The thing that is absolutely imparative when finding a professional, is finding one that specializes in autism/AS, or at least is currently treating AS patients. They have experience, and they can be very helpful with managing your life and being successful.

ProtossX wrote:
there is no point in gettin a diagnosis just fatten up some doctor/psychologists wallet an the drug companies who try to say u have other problems an need this med an this med for life which will never cure you but keep u stable

Think about it guys, dou think doctors an psychologists want u or me to get betteR? Do u think that serves there best interest or does keeping us sick so they can milk us dry sound like much more likely outcome?


My advice is to not search for a conspiracy because there isn't one. Doctors and mental health professionals don't push themselves through years of graduate-level coursework, merely to make a buck (drug companies are a different story). They got in the business to help people. They enjoy helping people. There may be a few snakes here and there, and I've met maybe one, but these people are not the majority. Not by a long-shot. One of the behavioral psychologists I've been seeing for a couple years has asked me on more than one occasion if I wanted to take a break for a while.

They are good people, but they are not magicians, health care is helpful only to the extent that one cares for him/herself. One must play an active role in his or her own treatment/care/success. This, I believe, is the greatest battle.

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22 Dec 2007, 6:54 pm

I found a doctor here in NYC that has been doing adult AS for over 20 years and he is under $1,000.

And to answer the question, I want to find out for peace of mind. That is the first reason. The second reason is for work purposes. When you are young and a student, it really doesn't matter, when you are in the working world, it can matter a great deal. If you chose to disclose and they fire you because of it, you can sue.

It can be expensive for sure. But sometimes you have to do what you have to do.