Do you believe in Karma?

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I think almost every single time I've been asked a question of the form "Do you believe in X?" my answer has been "no." Think about it...if the existance of X is so unprovable that everyday people have to ask you if you believe in it, it's probably safe not to believe in it. Karma is no exception. I haven't seen proof that it exists. I have actually seen proof of the opposite: I know plenty of people who wronged me and seemed totally rotten from my point of view but now are doing a lot better than I in almost every single aspect of life. Karma is just a feel-good fairy tale for vindictive sissies hungry for exultance. I'm above all this nonsense: I wish my enemies the best.

I agree 100% with you. Spiritual BS.

I don't believe in a cosmic force redressing wrongs and rewarding the good....

I do think it possible that people can make their OWN sort of personal karma... in that their subconscious can cause them to punish themselves after they've done something that they considered "wrong". The old guilt complex kicking in.

I can see it all playing out that way in your head, but of an actual existing force to cause karma, no.

If karma exists, then I am rich, well liked, etc.... The Bible says to risk everything now, and pay it forward, and that the first shall be last, and the last first. Frankly, I am SICK of that garbage. It is said that God will come when all the world has heard, yet most CHRISTIANS don't know about Christianity. They don't know about timothy, the context of famous quotes, etc...

"INTERPRETATIONS" are no ROUTINELY passed off as translations, yet they are clearly nowhere NEAR close. It makes me wonder about everything else. The Bible, for example, speaks of the THIRD temple, and a wall "given to the gentiles"!

Well, the "gentiles" are gentiles(and outsiders) ONLY to biased jewish people. Would an omniscient god not realize that!?!? And the delay of the third temple, and the wall, has been known for about 1400+ years! That may even be before the latin vulgate! If so, then the eary predictions could be a fulfilment of an obvious trend!

I recently posted some of my views on karma in another thread, but I'll reiterate them. I do not take issue with the basic idea of cause and effect, that in general, our actions result in consequences of some kind.

However, I do not like to see the idea of karma used to blame people for their misfortune. Usually when I hear someone mention karma, it is in this context. Sometimes karma is referenced in order to suggest that revenge is unnecessary because fate will punish those who deserve it. I think this is silly as well. There are other, more logical, reasons to abstain from committing acts of revenge. Good things happen to "bad" people and bad things happen to "good" people.

I believe that no individual is inherently good or evil, and that every action has too many different consequences to be classified as simply "good" or "bad". It is more useful to describe the results of an action (or the intentions behind it) than to attempt to classify the action according to such a simple scheme. For example, it is more realistic to say that an action is "harmful to its targets" or "intended to cause harm" than "evil". I know that probably is not a common or popular way of thinking, but I think that it conflicts with a belief in karma.

maybe, i don't think of it in the context of blaming peoples for their misfortune .

The thought AD put makes more sense.

I find that if I've done something wrong, it does have a way of coming back to me.... I don't know how, but it seems to.... I think there could be something to Karma.. I've seen it happen to other people too... but it could just be chance, but I've wondered though.. It seems to have a way of teaching people how to treat others...

Some people use the theory of Karma as a way to let go of anger... and say that their enemy will be punished by Karma instead of having to seek revenge upon their enemy themselves...

I think there is more than meets the eye and that Karma could be real. I try to do the right thing regardless..

Yeah, I believe in it.

Agree 100% END OF STORY from me...

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Actually Karma is not something to 'believe' in. It is what happens.

it's like saying 'do you believe the sun will come up in the morning?'

it's gonna happen whether you 'believe' it or not.

Merle

Karma - (Sanskrit meaning) Is the literal word meaning "action" or "doing". This popular theory of karma is like saying in English "your own doing".

In popular Indian belief, karma is a sort of built in moral law where all the good things you do and all the bad things you do, have consequences which you have to inherit.

It is said that to escape karma, your intention & action must occur at the same time... there are no premeditations

Events are linked to each other only if we insist they are. Karma is '"doing," and thus "your karma" is literally "what you are doing.'"

Karma: In Hindu tradition the karma is the record of all actions from all lives, the consequences for which are determined by the intentions of the act, not the consequences of the act. In Yoga, this is the form of practice that emphasizes work.

Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are. In another sense, it should be added, we are not totally the result of what we were; we will not absolutely be the result of what we are. The present is no doubt the offspring of the past and is the present of the future, but the present is not always a true index of either the past or the future; so complex is the working of Karma.

It is this doctrine of Karma that the mother teaches her child when she says "Be good and you will be happy and we will love you; but if you are bad, you will be unhappy and we will not love you." In short, Karma is the law of cause and effect in the ethical realm.

I believe what you give in life you get back...