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19 Jan 2008, 12:40 pm

What do you think about alpha females? Do you find them scary?



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19 Jan 2008, 12:50 pm

Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males.



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19 Jan 2008, 12:58 pm

I think the whole alpha males/females is more of a relative concept in humans. We aren't pack animals. We aren't even troupe/group animals anymore because we have a high degree of individuality and preference.

I don't know who you are referring to as alpha females. Most model and celebrities I don't really find appealing. What is often portrayed as beautiful I find quite boring and featureless.

I find some girls scary. That doesn't mean to say I don't like them but maybe it is a little daunting getting to know them, because you don't know what to expect and if they will like you.



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19 Jan 2008, 12:58 pm

"Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males."



that's not true. I've seen the more aggressive females hook up with the less aggressive males and it worked out fine.

You are trying to play refined matchmaker a little too much. You are not considering the multitude of different case scenerios where it may trigger a difference of outcome for others.

If an alpha female gets turned off by shy types then yes alpha male but there are alpha females who are turned off by macho "you do as I say" attitudes.



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19 Jan 2008, 12:59 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males.

define alpha male and female



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19 Jan 2008, 1:07 pm

I feel a bit nervous around anyone who's that diesel at first. I think its their potential that bugs me out at first, if I find I'm getting a good rapport with them things are cool - but then taking it another level; if someone's got a crushing social handshake its tough for me to keep at level.

In the end I don't really know whether or not I could feel comfortable dating someone like that. If I saw that she was the kind of person to where she saw all the good in me and got a lot of internal reward being with me, that's one thing. Otherwise, if our interaction was laden with all kinds of subtle misunderstandings and she liked me but I didn't know if it was an 'accurate' view of me - I'd be much more prone to shy out just because; I don't want things going sideways with an alpha.



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19 Jan 2008, 1:22 pm

catspurr wrote:
"Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males."



that's not true. I've seen the more aggressive females hook up with the less aggressive males and it worked out fine.

You are trying to play refined matchmaker a little too much. You are not considering the multitude of different case scenerios where it may trigger a difference of outcome for others.

If an alpha female gets turned off by shy types then yes alpha male but there are alpha females who are turned off by macho "you do as I say" attitudes.


Beta male/Alpha females relations can't work at the beginning but never for so long.



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19 Jan 2008, 1:23 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males.

define alpha male and female


You know a lot about animals , I think you know very well the definitions.



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19 Jan 2008, 1:36 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
catspurr wrote:
"Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males."



that's not true. I've seen the more aggressive females hook up with the less aggressive males and it worked out fine.

You are trying to play refined matchmaker a little too much. You are not considering the multitude of different case scenerios where it may trigger a difference of outcome for others.

If an alpha female gets turned off by shy types then yes alpha male but there are alpha females who are turned off by macho "you do as I say" attitudes.


Beta male/Alpha females relations can't work at the beginning but never for so long.


LePetitPrince, depends just how alpha they are though. Here's a good example. I don't know if you ever saw the movie Descent (the one where the 5 female jocks end up in a cave and end up having to fight though something like Morlocks from the time machine). I've had at least one girl in my own past who would have reminded you a lot of Juno, just not oriental. She was pretty much that kind of character though where one of the other girls I knew who ran track with her at a local college, who'd run track meets with her with a broken shin or ankle as she had, mentioned that most of the girls she knew were intimidated by her.

It depends on how alpha she is or what type of alpha. If she's alpha in the sense of being a model/beauty queen - she's much more likely to have aspirations toward a John Wayne on hip-hop, a fireman, construction worker, a doctor, a lawyer, something like that. If she's alpha in a real verile kinda way, like Juno from Descent or like Milah Jovovich's character in the Resident Evil's (and I've known girls like this); I kinda shyed away from the situation - partly because I was picky over stupid things back then, she was that attractive physically though to where I should have been feeling it. Though I also worked with the guy she married and, while he's an NT, he's very geeky and quiet - not really verile at all.

I think the reason why the diesel-alpha girls date like that is because if they were to go with a guy who were more alpha than they are, they'd need to go strolling through the state penitentiary and if they ended up with a guy who was like them there would probably be a lot of ego clash. Girls that are alpha-alpha also tend to have that reaction to where when they see a sort of innocent guy they find it adorable and it ends up being a turn-on.



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19 Jan 2008, 1:53 pm

alpha females? look them straight in the eye and put them in their place :lol:


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19 Jan 2008, 1:54 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males.

define alpha male and female


You know a lot about animals , I think you know very well the definitions.

Errm I'm asking you what your definition is of human alpha male and female.



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19 Jan 2008, 1:57 pm

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alpha females? look them straight in the eye and put them in their place :lol:


Shut up!



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19 Jan 2008, 2:34 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I feel a bit nervous around anyone who's that diesel at first. I think its their potential that bugs me out at first, if I find I'm getting a good rapport with them things are cool - but then taking it another level; if someone's got a crushing social handshake its tough for me to keep at level.

In the end I don't really know whether or not I could feel comfortable dating someone like that. If I saw that she was the kind of person to where she saw all the good in me and got a lot of internal reward being with me, that's one thing. Otherwise, if our interaction was laden with all kinds of subtle misunderstandings and she liked me but I didn't know if it was an 'accurate' view of me - I'd be much more prone to shy out just because; I don't want things going sideways with an alpha.


What about a beta male who grew up with an alpha sister? There is a term for a beta male who's married to an alpha female, but I can't say it here. On the other hand, an aspie male may end up going with such a woman because an alpha female would be assertive enough to ask him herself. For an example of what it would be like if females were dominant, consider the hyena...



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19 Jan 2008, 2:35 pm

I think people are putting too much stock into looks. Alpha doesn't always equal beautiful and beta doesn't always equal ugly.



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19 Jan 2008, 3:13 pm

I don't understand this whole "alpha/Beta" thing, so naturaly I don't get the topic. People around me just don't use the terms.



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19 Jan 2008, 3:19 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Beta and omega males would feel that they are out of their league. I think alpha females would only be wives with alpha males.

define alpha male and female


You know a lot about animals , I think you know very well the definitions.

Errm I'm asking you what your definition is of human alpha male and female.


The dominant male/female in a group.