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25 Jan 2008, 9:36 pm

I came across this quiz:

http://www.rdos.net/eng/

It produces a nice report, and says that I am very likely an Aspie.

But, does this quiz even have a name associated with it? Has it ever been written up in a psychology journal?

the Baron-Cohen Autism Spectrum Quotient Test, available here:

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newsweek/a ... efault.asp

was written up in the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders

http://www.springerlink.com/content/k87 ... efaf8&pi=1

So, at least I can use this one, and it is somewhat defensible.

Are there any other tests that would be similarly defensible for Asperger's Syndrome? Ones that have been written about in a scientific journal somewhere, and that have a name to them?



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25 Jan 2008, 9:48 pm

Some autism institutions use the AQ test by Baron-Cohen as a screening tool to see if further evaluation is worthwhile (=>28 is the PDD cut-off).

There's probably some more out there, but they are more used as a diagnostic aid at the time of diagnosis (the professionals have them).



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25 Jan 2008, 11:28 pm

Interesting. I scored about 112 aspie / 85 NT on "The Aspie Quiz", which suggests I have both aspie and NT traits.

on this test, I scored 34, which is apparently "very high"



26 Jan 2008, 4:02 am

Lot of people use the tests to diagnose themselves with it. Just because they say you have it doesn't mean you do. Anyone can score high on them. My boyfriend scores high on them but he has brain damage and brain damage can cause the traits too. I don't know if he is on the spectrum or not because I am not specialist. Someone with depression would probably score high too or someone with a personality disorder, especially someone with schizophrenia. There are lot of conditions out there where symptoms lap over each other.
If Sam and Joon took the test, they probably score high too because of their quirks.



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26 Jan 2008, 11:04 am

i try the test, and it say im likely an aspie, i scored 150/200. but then again, im very cautious about these kind of tests, especially because there's no supervision by other more qualitfied people. So i could have given answer where i know that it is a trait of AS. you know, kinda like munchaussen syndrome where people hurt themselves or others in order to get some attention...

but im not munchaussem btw.... :D



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26 Jan 2008, 11:22 am

The RDOS tests are tests he tried to normalize using standard tests, and research from past participants. As such, they are probably fairly good. They may even be better than the tests like this that psychiatrists use!

NO test is perfect! NO such test will alone be accepted by any self respecting doctor! There ARE things you CAN'T determine online.

And anyone using any such tests as the sole determinant of whether they are aspie doesn't have to bother! They probably AREN'T aspie, regardless of what the tests say.

Frankly, I looked at the DSM, and people here, and my life. I DID try to look for other things. I didn't use the online test to diagnose, but rather to HELP confirm it.



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26 Jan 2008, 12:03 pm

rdos' test has not been published in the professional arena. However, I hope one day it will be. I think very highly of it.

The AQ test is used in some research, although moreso in the UK (which isn't so surprising since that's where Baron-Cohen is located).

I also like the Australian Scale for Asperger's Syndrome, second version by Garnett and Attwood):

http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/asp ... twood.html

You have to score it yourself though. If you score 3 or above on 15 or more of those sub-areas (of which there are 25), that points towards AS/HFA.


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26 Jan 2008, 12:23 pm

thank you i took the test ! !

you can also check my blog

ther's an interesting test


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26 Jan 2008, 1:49 pm

WHOA! I had a 1 on only ONE part, all the rest were 2 or higher! 9 questions with six. On F?

Fa NYYYYY
b N
c Y
d N
e N

BTW he put the idea of "imagination" in a context that some claimed he didn't. I had a 6 for 19! I don't lack imagination, but DO have a hard time understanding some imagination by others with regard to games.



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26 Jan 2008, 1:57 pm

I took the AQ test and got a 41. I think it's a good test.



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26 Jan 2008, 4:20 pm

I think all of them have value, but for detailed things I prefer the rdos test. 184/200 on the Aspie portion and 30/200 on the NT... and a 41 on the Baron-Cohen, neither one a surprise to me. 8)


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26 Jan 2008, 5:10 pm

The guy who designs the Aspie Quiz is a member of WP. There is usually at least one active thread here on it. He puts tremendous amounts of work into the project. Each version seems to improve on the previous one.

In the next version, the Aspie Quiz will begin predicting several different neurological and psychological conditions.

I have, I think, taken every online test available. If you scroll just past halfway down this page, you will find them (with links to the testing sites):

http://narrative.neurelitism.com


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26 Jan 2008, 6:41 pm

I didn't see anything on your link there, nominalist.

The developer of the Aspie Quiz obviously put a lot of work into it, and it is a very good product.

But, I need something that would potentially be defensible in a disability hearing. If all that I can say about it is that I took a test that some guy designed on the internet, then this definitely isn't going to look as good compared to being able to say that I took a test that is described in some psychology journal.

The AQ test does foot the bill in that way.

The RDOS one does provide a lot of pages of impressive-looking output that would be good for documentation. If only this were described in some journal somewhere....

For the Aspie Quiz, we don't even know the name of the developer. For the AQ test--I can't think of a more impressive, psychologist-sounding name than Simon Baron-Cohen.



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26 Jan 2008, 7:35 pm

pandabear wrote:
I didn't see anything on your link there, nominalist.


The links are on the page itself. I will post them here:

http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

http://paulcooijmans.lunarpages.com/pers/gaia.html

http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Faces/EyesTest.aspx

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testi ... 0153908026

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp2.php

http://npatest.homestead.com/files/npatest.htm

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But, I need something that would potentially be defensible in a disability hearing. If all that I can say about it is that I took a test that some guy designed on the internet, then this definitely isn't going to look as good compared to being able to say that I took a test that is described in some psychology journal.


In that case, you would need to find an expert witness, preferably a well-known clinician or researcher, to attest to a particular measure.

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For the Aspie Quiz, we don't even know the name of the developer. For the AQ test--I can't think of a more impressive, psychologist-sounding name than Simon Baron-Cohen.


I don't want to post his name, since he does not use it here. However, if you go to the main page of the aspie quiz, you will find it at the bottom of the page.


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26 Jan 2008, 8:00 pm

I took this test http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newsweek/a ... efault.asp

and my score was 44



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26 Jan 2008, 8:07 pm

Ginap73 wrote:
I took this test http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newsweek/a ... efault.asp

and my score was 44


That is the same as the OKCupid test I posted. Several websites have posted it.


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