David Blunkett to shake up UK Welfare State!! !! !! !

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David Blunkett, hated by many, loved by few.

For those who don't know who David Blunkett is, he is the UK Secretary for the Department of Work and Pensions, which is in charge of people's welfare benefits. He was sacked from his former position of Home Secretary a five months ago for misconduct. He has since been returned to office after the May election by the BLIAR regime.

BLIAR has been harking on about reducing welfare benefits for some time, and David Blunkett is just the man to do it.

The Benefit in question is Incapacity Benefit, but he has now said he wishes to change all benefits to make the whole system simpler. I personally believe the guy is a moron since the people he will be affecting are sick or disabled. Many people with AS are on Incapacity Benefit in the UK.

Blunkett insists he will NOT be reducing benefits, just changing them. I am dubious, since he has lied before about many things. Also, he uses his blindness coupled with his success as a politician, as a weapon against disabled people.

I will be watching every last twitch that bastard has in the coming months. It smells very fishy to me. What do you think?

blunkett is a fascist. end of. i wouldn't trust him as far as i can spit.

Interesting you should say that Vivi, because I remember when he was Home Secretary, he was always having a go at the immigrants.

He, like all the others, is just an opportunist politician.

If he thought there was any political capital to be had from sounding more paternalistic and patrician, then he would do so.

The man cannot be trusted - ask his wife. He has lied in public office before and he will doubtless lie again.

It is also interesting that someone should comment on the way he would use his own personal luck and good fortune as a stick with which to beat others who had not been quite so lucky in life.

I'm not against changing the welfare system of this country as long as it stops the scroungers -- who have got nothing genuine that is stopping them from working -- claiming benefits while they should go out and get a job to support their eight kids.

These are the people who should be targeted, in my opinion.

My half-brothers cancer stricken dad had his disability taken away from him a couple of months before his death and when i was on jobseekers i was treated like scum and conned out of 6 weeks money so i am suspicious of the goverments plans.

Well, this is the first I've heard about this. Here, I am for giving money to the diabled and temporary money to those that lost their job to keep both groups off of the street, but there shouldn't be any support for those that are too lazy to work (known as welfare here) and that money shoud be re-appropriated to the first two.

That is where I disagree. Who is going to look after the children whilst the mother is at work? Think about it.

Targeting poor people is not an answer. Perhaps we should target the fat cats at the top of society. They are the true scroungers. Look at the amount of benefits the US government paid Exxon and Halliburton last year, and they still pay their workers crap.

Traditionally, it should be the father to provide if the mother chooses to put their children first before their career. But these days, the father f**k s off and leaves it to the mother.

And please note that I'm not against supporting all genuine cases from the government. I just wish that people would use their heads before they start planning on having a dozen kids and expect the taxpayers -- who are already underpaid and overtaxed -- to bail them out when most of these parents are more than able to work.



I agree to that.

This sound like communism – where everyone lives in equal poverty!

If we were to raise taxes on people who are successful they would simply go to another country to work where they can get more money. This would have a negative affect economy as a whole as there would be no one qualified to be in the top positions. This skill shortage would result in a down turn for economy as a whole affecting every body.



Like it or there are some people who falsely claim incapacity benefit. If they are targeted it frees up money for those who genuinely need it. Every body wins.

The only problem comes when Blunket messes it up. I am amazed that he has been allowed back so quickly.

Will people here stop getting comunism mixed up with socialism. RobertN is socialist and has said so many times. I suspect some people are using the word communism and bringing up the Soviet Union and China (when they are forced dictatorships and not true communism) as a straw man argument. There are enough resources in the world for everyone to live comfortably. Capitalists were quick to take advantage of the slave trade and lots are still giving practically slave wages. Under socialism people would still get paid more for acheiving higher qualified posts just not the big fat differences in living standards there is now.

It is true that businesses would leave here under socialism but we could still get by and would be a model for the rest of the world to eventually turn socialist. Dont forget though that businesses are rapidly moving away from here to relocate in countries where they can openly get away with paying employees $1 a day for long hours. Cuba is a deperately poor country but under their brand of socialism (while not agreeing with all of it) no-one is dying out of hunger like they were under American influenced mob controlled capitalism.

The people who falsely claim incapacity benefit are the very people who will see the right doctors and fight tooth and nail to make sure they get it. It is usually the poor, disabled and frequently old vulnerable people that dont make the same fuss, that will be hounded out of their benefits. I dont see how making things harder for those people would be a good thing.

The Jobcentre people should work harder at finding employment that leaves people better off than they are under their benefits instead of tring to trick people into jobs they cant do then take their benefit away when it is proved to be the case they cant do it. Too many people work hard yet still live under the poverty line. This is inexcusable in today's society when a country such has Norway for example has 0% living under the poverty line (yes even the no-good lazy scrounging skivers that collect benefits) because nobody is expected to live in squalor.

The goverment should raise the minimum wage and benefits to a level that allows everyone to live comfortably and the rich should be taxed for this. Any resistance out of them and they should immediately be spit-roasted and served to the masses.

I couldn't put it any better myself, Eamonn. So many people confuse Stalism (an evil regime) with Socialism (a democratic option for ordinary people).

Going back to the case of the single mother on benefits. It is better for her to collect benefits and look after her kids at home, and try to bring them up decently, than for her to go to work and have the kids running riot during the day, tearing their neighbourhood apart, ect, ect....! !! !

Another point, if ordinary people were paid fairly i.e. enough to live a decent life, and buy a house, then there would be much more incentive to get a job. As it is, jobs are so badly paid, it works out more viable to live on Benefits!! !! ! Whats more, the single mother could then afford to put her kids in a playscheme during the holidays so that she can work, rather than have the kids run riot.

YES!!

/me wonders if they know the difference...?

don't mean to be nasy, but the bugers blind for god's sake, I mean, he;'s either cunning or brainy, but blind man!! !

I don't trust him at all, the goverment wastes our tax's on making weapon which we then send to iraq(lmfao) who we are at war with.

We're basically giving morons weapons to use against us, but, hang on, if they kill us, they won'y get any weapons, but if we kill them, we, well, hmmm.......we loose money, nah, we have whats her name for that, the queen, stupid old b***h, the only thing thats keeping the uk alive.


thats my winge for tonight....

USSR had the word Socialist in it.

Just because they called it Socialist doesn't mean it was Socialist.

They call Labour socialist, but since blair, it is more like the Conservatives.

They call Bush Christian, but he is anything but Christian. (whoops, wrong thread)