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history_of_psychiatry
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19 Feb 2008, 2:19 pm

First of all, i think the war on drugs is stupid. It just creates an underground market for gangsters and thugs to make money. It doesn't keep kids off drugs. The anti-drug commercials are soooo stupid. Each one gets stupider than the last. But here is the thing: Almost all the commercials are anti-marijuana! Why?! Even the DEA and DARE will tell you if they're honest that pot is less harmful than drugs like coke and heroine. Shouldn't we be seeing anti-drug commercials about coke and heroine?? I've never seen one. I guess they stupidly think that pot is a gateway drug and if they keep kids off pot, the kids won't do stuff like coke and heroine. But here's the catch: When a kid does try pot and sees it's not as bad as the commercials say, then they assume that stuff like coke or heroine isn't bad either!The commercials in reality are helping kids to try harder drugs! There goes our tax dollars. What a waste. Making idiotic rhetorical propaganda.

This is your brain on drugs :>!

This is your brain on the war on drugs :*^(



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19 Feb 2008, 2:24 pm

Yeah, I agree those commercials are stupid but what do you think happens with your tax money when drug consumption gets out of controle? If you're worried about tax money, it's a lose-lose situation.

I think it's a desperate, but rather hopeless attempt to lessen drug use and abuse.

Drug dealers don't pay tax. ;)


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19 Feb 2008, 3:59 pm

The war on drugs has been shown over and over to be a dismal failure. Unfortunately most of it's supporters refuse to be rational about it. Kind of reminds me of those studies on hazing. If a person puts their all in something no matter how ridiculous it is they have an unwaverable faith in it.
The drugs wars may not benefit society but they benefit the government and crime-fighers in a lot of ways. The first being that it's an easy way for the government to make a lot of money on a convicted drug dealer's possessions and in fines. Police officers are the biggest adovocates of it because it helps fund their departments. It's also a fun excuse I suppose to put on SWAT gear and play war. Hey I admit I have considered becoming a cop because of this :lol:
The anti-drug commericals of today crack me up. The pop psychology they use in them is hilarious. There is this new message that pot is not the devil it justs makes you a big loser with no friends if you engage in it. Which is even more hilarious when you consider all the "cool" kids are the ones who engage in such risk-taking behavior and seem to have a lot friends. It's kind of funny but drugs sort of force you to have a social life otherwise how the hell are you going to get your fix? Kind of like other people cause other people to become fat. They should be honest in those commericals by having a more realist approach. Pot is expensive, makes you paranoid, causes other people to use you for a cheap buzz, and causes depression (much like alcohol does). They should also used real pot heads in those commericals who have been abusing the drug for years.
I am waiting for an anti-drug commerical on prescription drug abuse but that will probably never happen. :roll:



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19 Feb 2008, 4:01 pm

Legalize Marijuana! So I can open up a hash bar.

It's only illegal because of a very stupid, very old fundamentalist prohibition law.

That, and the cotton industry.


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19 Feb 2008, 4:34 pm

Bluesummers wrote:
Legalize Marijuana! So I can open up a hash bar.

It's only illegal because of a very stupid, very old fundamentalist prohibition law.

That, and the cotton industry.


Hemp is actually a more durable and inexpensive fiber than most others. Hemp is a quick renewable recource as well. You can make paper out of hemp, so we wouldn't have to chop down the rain forest. This may be paranoia but what if the cotton, wool, and paper industries are behind marijuana prohibition?


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19 Feb 2008, 4:37 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Bluesummers wrote:
Legalize Marijuana! So I can open up a hash bar.

It's only illegal because of a very stupid, very old fundamentalist prohibition law.

That, and the cotton industry.
This may be paranoia but what if the cotton, wool, and paper industries are behind marijuana prohibition?


That's exactly what I was trying to say :D And I think it's very true.


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19 Feb 2008, 4:41 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
You can make paper out of hemp, so we wouldn't have to chop down the rain forest. ?


I'm not cutting down the rain forest. Most of the people that are cutting it down want to sell the tropical hardwood timber, and then convert the land to agriculture (cattle, soybeans in Brazil, rice in Asia).



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19 Feb 2008, 5:23 pm

This war on drugs is a lie. Always has been. Theyr not going to arrest the big king pens in these drug rings, because the king pens are in cohesian with the government. The system makes money this way, sure they might bust a local street dealer, but they won't really go any higher than that. Police make money busting the people for a portion of the drugs they catch them with, the other portion of the drugs they'll either sell back on the streets or in some cases they might even use them for themselves.
There is no war on drugs, there is no war on terror, the war is on we the people.



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19 Feb 2008, 6:02 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Bluesummers wrote:
Legalize Marijuana! So I can open up a hash bar.

It's only illegal because of a very stupid, very old fundamentalist prohibition law.

That, and the cotton industry.


Hemp is actually a more durable and inexpensive fiber than most others. Hemp is a quick renewable recource as well. You can make paper out of hemp, so we wouldn't have to chop down the rain forest. This may be paranoia but what if the cotton, wool, and paper industries are behind marijuana prohibition?


The cotton industry was why it became illegal. Paper never depended on hemp. Wool is much more expensive than cotton but, hemp was less expensive than cotton. Cotton removed their competition by vilifying hemp and lobbying congress to make it illegal. That is why today most clothes are made of cotton.
Today, the government and big business make to much money to want to change the laws.



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19 Feb 2008, 6:06 pm

Mudboy wrote:
Today, the government and big business make to much money to want to change the laws.


Yep, and it's such a shame :cry:


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19 Feb 2008, 7:43 pm

Wholeheartedly agree.

Was not impressed in the slightest by our school-mandated anti-drug curriculum and thought the cop that visited was a bit of a twat.

Drilling into kids that "drugs are bad" is not as effective as they would like to believe. Talking down to kids about the issue is not going to work. And honestly, there are better ways of getting a point across than making every kid wear ridiculous "must conform and wear my D.A.R.E t-shirt on Friday" propaganda.

I'd already summarily rejected drugs before these idiots intervened and made me feel like a sheep.

My kid is in the school system now, with another following closely on her heels. Hopefully the message method has improved somewhat. :roll:



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19 Feb 2008, 7:49 pm

the war on drugs is a joke. im shure its already been proven that the governemnt deals in drugs


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19 Feb 2008, 7:51 pm

Jaded wrote:
Drilling into kids that "drugs are bad" is not as effective as they would like to believe.


It's mostly counter-active to what they're doing. Kids see all the "cool" kids doing drugs, and then they see those stupid twats spitting out their rhetoric in such an oppressive way. No wonder the "War on drugs" isn't working. To the young, nothing is cooler than rebellion against authority.

And from what I've seen, they're now using kids to convey their lame message that being straightedge is the new cool. When really, all they should be doing is showing videos of some poor sap going through Heroin withdrawal.


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20 Feb 2008, 12:31 am

richardbenson wrote:
the war on drugs is a joke. im shure its already been proven that the governemnt deals in drugs


There are several consistent anecdotes from CIA operatives about it, let alone things like MKULTRA that they don't deny.


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20 Feb 2008, 10:30 am

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Hemp is actually a more durable and inexpensive fiber than most others. Hemp is a quick renewable recource as well. You can make paper out of hemp, so we wouldn't have to chop down the rain forest. This may be paranoia but what if the cotton, wool, and paper industries are behind marijuana prohibition?

Paper is not made from rain forest trees. It is made primarily from pine trees planted for the specific purpose of making paper. I'm in favor of marijuana legalization, but stupid comments about saving the rain forest with pot paper just makes those who want to legalize cannabis look like a bunch of morons.


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20 Feb 2008, 11:01 am

On the legalization of cannabis issue, I wonder why they just didn't do it already. They missing out on a lot of the tax dollars they're so fond of.


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