Get ready! Life will end in 1 billion years!

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27 Feb 2008, 12:23 pm

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Scientist have nailed down how and when the Earth will cease to exist.

The sun will slowly expand into a red giant, pushing the Earth farther out into space, but not far enough.

Our home planet will be snagged by the sun's outer atmosphere, gradually plunging to its doom inside the fiery stellar furnace.

"The drag caused by this low-density gas is enough to cause the Earth to drift inwards, and finally to be captured and vaporized by the sun," explains astronomer Robert Smith of the University of Sussex in southern England.

Previous projections had all figured that the Earth would avoid falling into the sun, even during our star's red-giant phase.

The good news: This won't happen for another 7.6 billion years.

The bad news: Life on Earth will end long before then.

In fact, we've only got a billion years left before the slowly expanding sun boils off the oceans and reduces our planet to an uninhabitable cinder, says Smith.

That may sound like a long time, but in fact life on Earth's been around a lot longer than that — a total of 3.7 billion years, according to the latest estimates.

For those first three billion years, true, we were nothing but pond scum. Still, the new figures indicate the long story of life on our fair blue-green planet may be entering its last act.

Is there any way our future descendants can save themselves? Why, yes, explains Smith.

He cites a recent study emanating from the University of California, Santa Cruz. It proposes taming an asteroid to swing by the Earth every few thousand years, slowly nudging the Earth into higher solar orbit, enough to outpace the sun's own outward growth.

"This sounds like science fiction," says Smith. "But it seems that the energy requirements are just about possible and the technology could be developed over the next few centuries."


Note the misspelling in the first sentence -- a sentence which itself is an incorrect claim.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332429,00.html


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27 Feb 2008, 12:26 pm

I thought it was common knowledge. I think I saw the 'life will end in about a billion years or so' message in a car advert too.

everything ends.



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27 Feb 2008, 12:46 pm

I'm just glad they told us now, so I can plan!

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27 Feb 2008, 12:52 pm

Well, you know what they say: "The quicker it's diagnosed, the quicker we can scrape out the cancer." :o



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27 Feb 2008, 2:24 pm

bheid wrote:
I thought it was common knowledge. I think I saw the 'life will end in about a billion years or so' message in a car advert too.

everything ends.


Ya I have known this for quite some time, i have always been facinated with how stars are born, live and die.

I did not think the habital life of Earth would be measured with percision, but I suppose 1 Billion years is a rough estimate.

I always assumed Earths habital life was AT LEAST more then half done anyways, I just thought it would be a few billion more years then expected.

A star like ours swells when it dies because the nuclear reaction in its cour overpowers gravety. The sun will turn red because beleive it or not it will actually cool down, the heat may not be as intense on the surface because the sun will loose density basicly. The light output will increase a bit as more hydrogen is converted to helium.


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27 Feb 2008, 2:30 pm

Who here can fathom a billion years? I can't. Yes, I know how much 1 billion years is, but I can't truly imagine that amount of time actually passing. The scope is simply too great for the human mind to sense. Yes, I can convince myself that I can imagine it, but, being honest with myself, I don't know what a billion years would feel like, if, hypothetically, I lived that long.
I mean, a billion seconds is a little under 31.7 years.


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27 Feb 2008, 2:38 pm

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It proposes taming an asteroid

if i can tame an asteroid, can i keep it for a pet?
i promise to eat all my vegetables and pick up after it too...


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27 Feb 2008, 3:10 pm

”But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” 2 Peter 3:10 KJV 8) 8O

(I’m not trying to start a debate, I’m not trying to prove anything. I just thought about this verse when I read the article, don't take me too seriously).



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27 Feb 2008, 3:51 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Who here can fathom a billion years? I can't. Yes, I know how much 1 billion years is, but I can't truly imagine that amount of time actually passing. The scope is simply too great for the human mind to sense. Yes, I can convince myself that I can imagine it, but, being honest with myself, I don't know what a billion years would feel like, if, hypothetically, I lived that long.
I mean, a billion seconds is a little under 31.7 years.


Yeah it's hard to fathom, but I can't help but think something else will likely happen to the Earth long before that. IE; large comet crashing into Earth, or even more likely.....mankind.

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27 Feb 2008, 4:13 pm

I learned about this in third grade. Why does Fox consider this "news"? :roll:


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27 Feb 2008, 4:15 pm

There is an excellent book on this called The Life and Death of Planet Earth by Peter Ward and Don Brownlee. What basically happens is that as stars burn their supply of hydrogen their cores get denser because the star's mass takes up less space in the form of helium then in the form of hydrogen, the denser core burns hotter so a star slowly brightens over the course of it's life. 4 billion years ago the Sun was 30% dimmer then it is today, the Earth didn't freeze over because it had a dozens of times more CO2 in the atmosphere then it does now (nearly all of that CO2 is now buried in the form of limestone). As the Sun slowly brightened a self-regulating cycle involving erosion, algae with calcium carbonate shells, limestone formation, subduction, and volcanoes developed that slowly sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere.

Within the next 1 billion years the ever-brightening sun will cause CO2 levels to drop to the minimum amount required for photosynthesis and the self-regulating cycle will then stop working. Earth will then undergo the same process that turned Venus into a furnace. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas and will trigger what is called a "wet runaway greenhouse." the oceans boil away, and Earth eventually becomes hot enough for limestone to break down into CO2 and lime (calcium oxide), releasing all that CO2 into the atmosphere.


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27 Feb 2008, 4:25 pm

It is very likly life on Earth will continue to survive dispite likly doomsday scinarios like astroids, Nuclear war, and climate change. Life is tough, it can adapt and survive. Life changes and over time new species replace old ones that cant survive the new climate.

Earth will have to get really REALLY bad and change VERY VERY quickly in order to wipe out all life on it. Even nuclear war, a man made disaster I highly doubt would kill off most of the life on Earth, sure it would kill lots, and distroy human civilization, but it may even be likly some humans can even survive that.

A billion years even on a cosmic scale is not exactly a blip in time, well if you beleive in the big bang anyways. If not I suppose time is infinite, and so like second a billion years would only be a blip I guess. I think our nearest star could go thru drastic changes and life can still adapt, and survive, at least for a while anyways.

I know many of the people I used to go to high school with, those of us who had this similar interest beleived stars burned hydrogen and produced helium + energy. The truth is stars can burn other elements also such as carbon, and oxygen. This is possible because all stars have different amounts of mass, heat and pressure. It only taks a small difference in heat or pressure or mass to make a HUGE difference in how the star burns the different types of fuel they posess.

Early stars did not have fuel like oxygen and carbon, The early universe only have hydrogen as the only element and over time helium and other elements occured in the nuclear reactioons during the stars main sequence and even after it died, releasing even MORE energy then the start could produce in its entire lifetime of nuclear fusion.


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27 Feb 2008, 5:00 pm

So little time? topic

Long before the 1 billion mark we will have moved on to another world, another galaxy.

We might even figure out how to power the earth out of harm's way without resorting to unreliable asteroids. (Cannot trust 'em as far as we can toss 'em.)

Having said as much, I\we have got a lot of living to do. :D


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27 Feb 2008, 11:54 pm

I had a cassette tape when i was little, that always said the earth would end in about 4 billion years. that freaked me out, and this freaked me out more.

Hopefully, we will get another planet to live on or something.



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28 Feb 2008, 12:13 am

nirrti_rachelle wrote:
I learned about this in third grade. Why does Fox consider this "news"? :roll:


I remember learning about this in school, as well. It doesn't scare me. I won't be around, in a billion years. I'll be in Heaven.


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28 Feb 2008, 12:15 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
nirrti_rachelle wrote:
I learned about this in third grade. Why does Fox consider this "news"? :roll:


I remember learning about this in school, as well. It doesn't scare me. I won't be around, in a billion years. I'll be in Heaven.


Well, I'm worried about it, partly, because I believe in reincarnation I don't want to be in a body during that time. scary.