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18 Apr 2008, 4:40 am

The vaccination for hepatites B affects the symptoms of children with the autism spectrum? Also the doctors Wackefield and Singh found that some disorders of autistic children are caused because of the triple vaccin of DTP. What is your opinion?Is there any synergism between vaccination and the autistic spectrum?

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18 Apr 2008, 5:30 am

No, there has been no peer-reviewed research study that links autism and vaccines with the exception of the Wakefield one, which has been discredited by the Lancet (the journal that published it) for being inaccurate and unethical.



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18 Apr 2008, 7:57 am

Noooooo nooooo noooooooo!! ! NO CONNECTIONS WITH VACCINES, or mercury or anything else for that matter in my humble opinion. It is simple................good old fashioned....................genetics! We call everyone on the spectrum a jellybean as it is easier than the millions of labels! BUT.................it takes a jellybean to make a jellybaby! SIMPLE AS!

Dr Andrew Wakefield in my opinion is on the spectrum himself! I MEAN honestly what doctor pays children for their blood at a party??? Duhhhhh, how inappopriate is that! I see many jelly tendencies in him AND Prof Roy Meadow too!

Wakefield is awaiting his fate now and I for one hope he gets struck off for life and never allowed near a child again! SORRY strong stuff I know but he did the damage at MY training hospital!! !! Grrrrrrrr

SORRY rant over! Genetics have a lot more than hair and eye colour to answer for! :wink:



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18 Apr 2008, 5:40 pm

Jeli, ROFLMAO! I love your response.


How's this for a genetics connection: My 9 y/o DD has AS. I have AS, 3 of my 5 siblings have AS, my Grandpa had AS(speculating), and at least 2 other of his children I would speculate have AS. I am not close to the extended family on that side, but I sure remember some quirky cousins growing up - ADD, anti-social, tantrums, etc. My grandpa was notorious for his obsession with Elvis and toy trains. He was also an "unfeeling, anti-social jerk" per my NT Mother, "just like your father." LOL!

I suspect that my sister with AS traits who also has a child(4 month old) may not pass it on. Her husband is very social and NT and mine is definitely AS. Time will tell.



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19 Apr 2008, 6:19 am

Jennyfoo........................love ya!! !! Same with me.

Mum ADD
Dad Aspergers/ADHD/ODD
Me ADHD/Autism
Husband ADD
2nd partner Aspergers

I have 5 children ALL diagnosed on the spectrum!! ! WHOOOHOOOO, all jellybeans not a marshmallow ( neurotypical ) in sight!

Is that proof enought!

GOOD FOR YOU JENNYFOO!! GENETICS, dont blame anything else!
Autistic Spectrum Conditions are NOT CURABLE!! ! We can alleviate the CORE SYMPTOMS but it is HARDWIRED. And I for one would not want to change over to being a marsh!! I LIKE BEING A JELLYBEAN!!

WHOOOHOOOOOOOOOO HIP HIP HOOORAY FOR JELLYBEANS!! !! !!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DR ANDREW WAKEFIELD
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 'PROF' ROY MEADOW

BOTH HIGHLY DANGEROUS MEN. Sadly I could name another 100 to join the infamous. Sadly most of them are jellies BUT NASTY ONES!

I would love to name and shame sooooooooo many!!
One day...............................promise!
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21 Apr 2008, 9:10 am

I take some experimentations to alleviate the core symptoms of Asperger on my son but the results are negatives or zero:

A)Treatment with the association risperdal /zoloft he had severe side effects :augmentation of agressivity and the augmentation of gluicose levels.

B)Treatment witg l-thianine and GABA are not change his behaviour

C)Fish oils on large doses (omega-3 fatty acids etc) not help him.

How we can investigate more coping strategies to giving him the freedom and peace of mind to do works best for him at home?
I will test homeopathy for increasing capacity to cope with the situation in a healthier manner.
Can you inform me about the homeopathic treatment?18 years old is a rough age with hormones shifting?
Please inform me about homeopathy.
Thank you
Themis



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21 Apr 2008, 9:22 am

:wink: Well, a little pot of magic is available that will take ALL anxiety away within half an hour. The product is called Phosphatidyl Serine. it is natural and safe.

The way it works is by inhibiting Cortisol and increasing hippocampal function. I could not BELIEVE it when I saw it work BUT it is real AND it does not need a prescription.

There is quite a stir now, check out this, seems news is spreading!! ! It is new but very informative and they are a really helpful bunch!!

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YES and it really does WORK INSTANTLY! Crosses blood barrier within 30mins. 3000 researched papers on it and even a youtube! Hope that helps, it has saved OUR LIVES!!

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Sound too good to be true? Yea I know but hey the kids of mine with ADHD are NO longer on any medication apart from this! GOODBYE RITALIN, CONCERTA, RESPIRIDONE etc! Effects last about 5hrs depending on child or adult.

Clinical trials are underway and whooo hooooo easy peasy lemon squeeeezzzeeeee!!



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21 Apr 2008, 10:23 am

The MMR vaccine is, I'm fairly sure, the one that gets blamed the most for causing autism... I never got the MMR, because I had a bad reaction to the DPT vaccine, and I ended up on the spectrum anyway :lol: So I'm skeptical about the link between vaccines and autism.


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21 Apr 2008, 10:26 am

Fair comment not to have a vaccination because you have a bad reaction. Understandable of course BUT VACCINES AND AUTISM ARE NOT ( IMHO, and there is PLENTY of evidence!) RELATED.....................END OF! :wink:



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21 Apr 2008, 11:20 am

Themis wrote:
I take some experimentations to alleviate the core symptoms of Asperger on my son but the results are negatives or zero:

A)Treatment with the association risperdal /zoloft he had severe side effects :augmentation of agressivity and the augmentation of gluicose levels.

B)Treatment witg l-thianine and GABA are not change his behaviour

C)Fish oils on large doses (omega-3 fatty acids etc) not help him.

How we can investigate more coping strategies to giving him the freedom and peace of mind to do works best for him at home?
I will test homeopathy for increasing capacity to cope with the situation in a healthier manner.
Can you inform me about the homeopathic treatment?18 years old is a rough age with hormones shifting?
Please inform me about homeopathy.
Thank you
Themis


Homeopathy will get you nowhere with autism. I recommend he see a therapist regularly who is trained to deal with autism spectrum disorders, and that therapist should also be able to recommend other types of therapy that might be helpful (occupational therapy, behavior modification therapy, or activities that will help him cope with everyday life).



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21 Apr 2008, 11:31 am

PHOSPHATIDYL SERINE IS NOT HOMEOPATHY by the way!! Just wanted to add that!

Please don't ever say carte blanche that something WON'T work. I am a trained nurse and never for one moment thought that this COULD work let alone REPLACE chemicals. 8O But my children no longer rely on any prescription medications and I would never have believed it had I not witnessed it for myself. MAGIC! Right in front of your eyes! Don't believe me? Try it first!

I am totally PRO seeing OT'S SALT and specialist Autistic Spectrum experts. That is obvious. But if all else is failing TRY PHOSPHATIDYL SERINE. You only need one to see the effect. What has anyone got to lose? Nothing! But the gains could be the same as they have been for me and many others.

For reference it is known AND there is good empirical evidence to support a glycine chain imbalance and certain anomalies within the amino acid levels in those on the spectrum. I can provide the links if necessary. NEVER SAY NEVER. :wink:



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21 Apr 2008, 11:51 am

I have AS. My husband is on the spectrum. Our daughter has AS. Our son has PDD. Several people in my husband's family also are on the spectrum. Do I think vaccines cause this?

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21 Apr 2008, 11:58 am

Mikomi wrote:
I have AS. My husband is on the spectrum. Our daughter has AS. Our son has PDD. Several people in my husband's family also are on the spectrum. Do I think vaccines cause this?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! VACCINES do not cause AS!! Honestly, it is GENETICS!! :wink:



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21 Apr 2008, 6:30 pm

yeah it's genetics by family has ptsd, anxiety,adhd and all the other diagnoses that end up being wrongly diagnosed as aspergers. I know it's genetics p=