Schöenberg

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I was wondering if there were any fans of Arnold Schonenberg around, or the Twelve Tone System of Composition in general. For that matter, anyone here like any experimental music like that?

I don't know a lot of people that can handle Sprechestimme, but I like it

I like Verklartenacht (sp?) a lot, but I really don't care much for either twelve tone, unless it's Webern or atonal.

As for experimental music, well, it really depends on who the composer is. What kind of stuff were you thinking of?

And the spelling is Schoenberg, or Schonberg (preferably with an umlaut (sp?) over the o)

I don't like Schoenberg or experimental music at all.

I own some Schoeberg. I'm not averse (and indeed I think I may prefer atonal classical to Romantic and post-modern), but I've never really been able to wrap my mind around atonal. Although I've only listened to the Serenade op 24; maybe I just need a larger sampling of twelve tone stuff.

I find it very refreshing when I get stuck in a rut.

Wow, this is all rather embarrassing! I was writing this quickly in school, hence the misspelling. It is spelled umlaut by the way.

Well, to me, Schöenberg was rather experimental - but in the same breath, you could say that John Cage was (Prepared piano rules) as well as the minimalists such as Steven Reich and Philip Glass.

I like Phillip Glass, and I think that Steve Reich is an excellent composer, however the music of his that I've listened to has too many high pitched sounds that grate on my ear, so I'm not a huge fan of hearing his music. Intellectually, though, his ideas are awesome.

How about Crumb?

Now Crumb I haven't had too much time to listen to, because of lack of availability of his works. However, I remember one piece of his referring to a child looking to find her signing voice. Thinking about it, it sounded as though the piece was composed by the Prime-Retrograde-Inversion-Retrograde Inversion technique from the twelve tone system - ironic

I could be very wrong, of course

I've heard of that a long time ago. Isn't the twelve tone system where you play a musical phrase of 12 notes but only play each note once?

Essentially. Then you take that musical phrase and play it reversed over the staff, or backwards, or both.

I've made a bit of experimental music recently, not really the Schoenberg type though.

http://www.myspace.com/zznzlzn if you're interested