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Do you think its BS For Microsoft to do this
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16 May 2008, 1:45 pm

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The next-gen console war is going to get a lot more uglier in 2008 by all indications. Nintendo's Wii has already found its niche with its innovative and cool way of playing games with the Wiimote and Sony PS3's superior hardware is slowly gaining ground, but where does the Xbox stand in 2008? The Xbox Elite and Premium were great successors but the next big step is yet to come. Sure enough, Microsoft isn't lazing around but is working on its next version of the Xbox, dubbed "360 Ultimate." If the rumors are to be believed, the new Xbox 360 Ultimate will boast features such as built-in WiFi, high-definition audio output, 1080p HDMI, 65nm hardware architecture, and a "near-silent" fan. It will also have a monstrous 320GB HDD to accommodate Xbox's upcoming IPTV service. But the icing on the cake will be the built-in HD-DVD drive, giving Microsoft the much needed edge in the ongoing next-gen format war.

All this and much more will be revealed come this autumn 2008.



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16 May 2008, 2:01 pm

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But the icing on the cake will be the built-in HD-DVD drive, giving Microsoft the much needed edge in the ongoing next-gen format war.



HD-DVD already lost the format war to Sony's Blu-Ray disc.



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16 May 2008, 2:18 pm

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Shenzie wrote:
But the icing on the cake will be the built-in HD-DVD drive, giving Microsoft the much needed edge in the ongoing next-gen format war.



HD-DVD already lost the format war to Sony's Blu-Ray disc.
I know :lol: what edge are they gonna get the "We Screwed Up" edge And plus I'm not wasting my money on something that Ive got and they just decided to fix for extra cash. I shouldn't have to pay for this **** Knowing that I got insurance on this one and if i get it fixed its gonna break again anyway. But if I'm right my PSP 1000 Series Broke and when i took it to best buy they said we cant replace your psp so were just giving you the new psp slim since they don't make the other model. maybe it will work the same way for my xbox 360



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17 May 2008, 2:33 am

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Nintendo's Wii has already found its niche


Heh, yeah if you call selling twice as many units as the 360 and PS3 put together last month as a "niche" (a month that saw the release of GTA 4), then you would be correct.



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17 May 2008, 10:29 am

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Heh, yeah if you call selling twice as many units as the 360 and PS3 put together last month as a "niche" (a month that saw the release of GTA 4), then you would be correct.


Not going to go into an argument on which is the better platform or deserves to sell better, but it's likely that the effects of GTA4 will be felt this month. It only came out in the last days of April - I know it broke sales records and everything, but it's probable people who were considering getting a console for GTA4 would be buying this month.

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The next-gen console war is going to get a lot more uglier in 2008 by all indications. Nintendo's Wii has already found its niche with its innovative and cool way of playing games with the Wiimote and Sony PS3's superior hardware is slowly gaining ground, but where does the Xbox stand in 2008? The Xbox Elite and Premium were great successors but the next big step is yet to come. Sure enough, Microsoft isn't lazing around but is working on its next version of the Xbox, dubbed "360 Ultimate." If the rumors are to be believed, the new Xbox 360 Ultimate will boast features such as built-in WiFi, high-definition audio output, 1080p HDMI, 65nm hardware architecture, and a "near-silent" fan. It will also have a monstrous 320GB HDD to accommodate Xbox's upcoming IPTV service. But the icing on the cake will be the built-in HD-DVD drive, giving Microsoft the much needed edge in the ongoing next-gen format war.


I doubt some of these specs, but if they release a new 360 model with features previously only available in overpriced accessories, all the better for us consumers. I agree that it's doubtful they'll release a 360 with HD-DVD drive. I could imagine a Blu-Ray add-on, though.



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17 May 2008, 11:31 am

I don't think the Xbox will ever play Blu-Ray discs since it's a format invented by their competitor Sony.



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17 May 2008, 12:41 pm

the next systems from Microsoft and Nintendo won't be released till 2010 following the normal 5-year console cycle, whereas the PS4 won't be released till 2012, giving the next xbox a two year lead to sell its games.


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17 May 2008, 2:27 pm

not fair..they could have put a silent fan in the regular 360s...they sound like planes taking off.


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18 May 2008, 12:05 am

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Not going to go into an argument on which is the better platform or deserves to sell better, but it's likely that the effects of GTA4 will be felt this month. It only came out in the last days of April - I know it broke sales records and everything, but it's probable people who were considering getting a console for GTA4 would be buying this month.


I doubt it. Just like the movies, game buying has become frontloaded in recent years. A huge bulk of the sales happen in the first few days after release for blockbuster games released in the off-season. After that things level off very quickly. For example, Super Smash Bros. Brawl sold only 300,000 and change units last month after selling 10x that in March. Granted it went on sale earlier in March than GTA 4 did in April, but my point remains.

If we were going to see a Haloesque impact on console sales due to GTA 4, it would have been at least noticable in last months numbers. Halo 3 was released on the 25th and the console did see its sales that month increase beyond the Wii for the first and, so far, only time despite being so late in the month.

Surprisingly, the sales for the PS3 and 360 actually went DOWN by well over 25% in April (the Wii remained steady falling by less than 1%). A development hardly anyone saw coming.

In any case, I was just making a point on Microsoft's ridiculous corporate spin trying to minimize the Wii's dominance over it.



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18 May 2008, 12:08 am

I can't understand why anyone would bother with a Wii-I have one and my bf's 360 is way more fun.

Of course, I'm still very old-fashioned when it comes to games.


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18 May 2008, 11:18 am

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I don't think the Xbox will ever play Blu-Ray discs since it's a format invented by their competitor Sony.


Blu-Ray is owned by numerous companies, one of which is Sony. Granted, I'm sure Microsoft would probably be paying royalties to Sony on each game or console (not an expert on the issue, clearly) if they implemented Blu-Ray in some way, but they'd be doing the same to others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

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I doubt it. Just like the movies, game buying has become frontloaded in recent years. A huge bulk of the sales happen in the first few days after release for blockbuster games released in the off-season. After that things level off very quickly. For example, Super Smash Bros. Brawl sold only 300,000 and change units last month after selling 10x that in March. Granted it went on sale earlier in March than GTA 4 did in April, but my point remains.

If we were going to see a Haloesque impact on console sales due to GTA 4, it would have been at least noticable in last months numbers. Halo 3 was released on the 25th and the console did see its sales that month increase beyond the Wii for the first and, so far, only time despite being so late in the month.

Surprisingly, the sales for the PS3 and 360 actually went DOWN by well over 25% in April (the Wii remained steady falling by less than 1%). A development hardly anyone saw coming.

In any case, I was just making a point on Microsoft's ridiculous corporate spin trying to minimize the Wii's dominance over it.


That link you mentioned only quotes U.S. sale stats. Though the numbers are still surprising, if they're through to May 3rd. If it was just till the end of April, it wouldn't necessarily be so, but an extra 3 days... well, that sort of puts a big dent in my argument. =P



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18 May 2008, 10:15 pm

Well Nintendo Will Always Find a way Back on top. Nintendo is more of a caring company and wont let you down that's why they succeed in allot Nintendo took Sega in and know its like there Brothers Because Nintendo cares about its people. Sony and Microsoft Are all about the Money Not the people.



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20 May 2008, 3:22 am

this is starting to remind me of Sega trying to squeeze whatever drops they could out of the Genesis. They had the Genesis, then they had the Sega CD attachment, then they had the 32X. And then when they had to make a whole new console they screwed the pooch with the Saturn.

btw, side note, this is kinda messed up, but am i the only one who finds this console war positively thrilling? i was a Nintendo fan as a kid so when Nintendo did something better than Sega i got a huge thrill out of it. But 10 years with the Playstation kind of took that away, because Sony was always the clear winner.

but now the three major consoles are all fighting for every little scrap they get, so they have to really not screw up and do right by their customers.

i dunno, breathes life into this old warrior's bones.


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20 May 2008, 7:00 am

yeah well if nintendo doesn't get its act together they'll end up like sega,
heres what would help nintendo become a big part of gaming again(IMO):
1.build a console that has good graphics (come on it's time to move beyond the gamecube)
2.allow more freedom for third-party developers to make games besides cheap mini-games
3.release more than five good titles a year I.E. a mario game, Zelda game, and a Metroid game, a super smash bros. game, and a mario cart game.(thats it thats all they have going for them, the rest of their gaming library is just lame mini-game games that could have been on the DS instead)


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20 May 2008, 5:15 pm

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yeah well if nintendo doesn't get its act together they'll end up like sega,
heres what would help nintendo become a big part of gaming again(IMO):


Is this flamebait or something?



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21 May 2008, 10:10 pm

I already have the HD DVD player for my 360 shame it lost to BluRay because HD DVDs were more advanced and cost less. I bought 300 and Doom on HD DVD for £4.50 each yesterday. :D Their's some real bargains out there on HD DVD.



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