Thirteen year-old girls singing racist songs..

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22 Oct 2005, 8:40 pm

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=4330 ---> That's sick. White people have to be proud of their race, just as blacks, latins and etc... but not hating or depreciating other people...



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22 Oct 2005, 8:54 pm

They also think the Holocaust never happened. Things like this freak me out.


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22 Oct 2005, 8:55 pm

yea i saw this on abc primetime the other night..quite disturbing..and i don't really think those girls are correctly educated about the holocaust..i do believe in preserving my race, but hating other races, joining white power groups is just plain ignorant



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22 Oct 2005, 9:00 pm

I could care less aobut race. I don't know the qualifications, but I could be considered multi-ethnic. For me, that's just one more reason to not be that racist. But what these little girls are doing is just stupid. I feel sorry for them, it's going to suck when they learn what kind of people are raising them.


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22 Oct 2005, 9:45 pm

hadapurpura wrote:
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=4330 ---> That's sick. White people have to be proud of their race, just as blacks, latins and etc... but not hating or depreciating other people...


I know these people are dumb, but I have often held racist views in the past aganist Aborigines (I see a lot of aborigines around me where I live and their conduct influences my views of them. However being an Autistic and someone who is pretty alienated from society in general, race has never mean't much to me.

If I had been NT my mother's insane upbringing of me and my sister would have very well driven me into the far-right, neo-nazi circles. I kind of know where these people are coming from, a lot of them had screwed upbringings or neo-nazi parents.

I dunno what the attitute of today's neo-nazi's are towards Autistics, however I can't say it would be an approving one.



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22 Oct 2005, 11:30 pm

Those girls are sick!



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22 Oct 2005, 11:34 pm

Bec wrote:
Those girls are sick!


No, the parents are. The girls are unknowingly ignorant.


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23 Oct 2005, 12:30 am

Sarcastic_Name wrote:
Bec wrote:
Those girls are sick!


No, the parents are. The girls are unknowingly ignorant.


By 'those girls', I meant the two singers and their psycho mother. I read more at that website, and their mother writes a lot of articles. I read most of them, and she is insane. I do think that even though those girls have been brainwashed, they are old enough (and should be smart enough) to start making their own decisions.



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23 Oct 2005, 12:48 am

i agree, bec, but making your own choices can come from ignorance when it should be informed choice. if these girls have no other information/experience, then they're making choices which are limited. they need educating, then, not condemning - condemn the racism, absolutely, though.

i didn't bother looking at the link - i'll trust you people when you say it's racist. quite frankly, i see enough of it - i don't need reminding, more's the pity.



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23 Oct 2005, 1:05 am

Hey, Perris,CA is right next to where I live. I'm not suprised that white power groups are using this area for a base of operations for making rhetoric. There's a diverse population here, and there's a bunch of white power groups, and not all of them get along with each other.

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By 'those girls', I meant the two singers and their psycho mother. I read more at that website, and their mother writes a lot of articles. I read most of them, and she is insane. I do think that even though those girls have been brainwashed, they are old enough (and should be smart enough) to start making their own decisions.

It's more elaborate and organized than brainwashing. When you get enough of them livingin the same area, it becomes a distinct culture. It is a sustainable way of life for them because the group all has the same basic idea of how their community should be run, how their families should be run, and they have their own sets of social protocols and traditions. If the girls are socially accepted, feel comfortable with their way of life, and are making a living in their racist culture, there is unlikely to be anything that would make them choose to leave.



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23 Oct 2005, 4:12 am

Its still deeply disturbing. Most white power politics seem to me to be driven by fear and hate. The site linked to is deeply racist, and I am struck by the parallels between the crap spouted there and by our own BNP. I feel sorry for those kids, growing up in that disgusting environment is bound to warp your perceptions. :evil:


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23 Oct 2005, 4:20 am

sean is right. it's a self perpetuating way og life once established. Educcation of these people will not be easy to achieve.
It's similar to cult psychology, strong resistance to common sense is a virtue. The apologetics website ( a christian resource) holds info on the mentality. http://www.apologeticsindex.org/



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23 Oct 2005, 6:58 am

this story is far beyond my imagination of a civilized society.
if that kind of education is normal in that part of the world, i am really shocked.
i was sure america has some problems, but now i can only feel sorry for the children growing up in such a family/society :cry:
its just like the indoctrination of prejudice in islamist countries like iran, or the situation in north korea...



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23 Oct 2005, 7:22 am

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I dunno what the attitute of today's neo-nazi's are towards Autistics, however I can't say it would be an approving one.


Neo-nazis, just like Hitler, are into eugenics. This means preservation of the "favoured white race", and the elimination of anything "unclean". "Unclean" means any other race, homosexuals, disabled people, and gypsies.

Hitler sent many disabled people to the gas chambers as well as the Jews.

Their beliefs are basically an extreme form of Social Darwinism (which in itself is a disgusting belief). Rather than simply allow Weak or Unfit people to die off by starvation, they actively want to kill them off.



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23 Oct 2005, 8:37 am

If they want to live in their blind, secluded society, and miss out on what the rest of the world has to offer, then more fool them!



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23 Oct 2005, 9:34 am

Someone I know (actually on the specrum, I believe) is constantly going on about these two- he is militantly against (which would be fine but he brings it up in every conversation). I was kind of suprprised someone else brought it up.

Sarcastic_Name wrote:
Bec wrote:
Those girls are sick!


No, the parents are. The girls are unknowingly ignorant.


Exactly.