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21 Jul 2008, 8:19 am

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Natural is a silly word...

Perhaps "not unnatural" (which isn't really the opposite) is a better choice.

i agree

i don't really think people have a natural weight, i think that pretty much anyone can get to pretty much any weight (not so much to each extreme, but i think that anyone can get thin) it just takes some people more work than others to go either way. so some people have a tendency to be thin, some people have a tendency to be heavier, also different body shapes, bone structure, etc., have a part to play.

so i find a healthy weight looks nice, so if you've got a thick girl who's too thin, that doesn't look good, but a small girl who's too big also doesn't look good. you should have seen some of the lightweight girls at my weekend regatta, they were so skinny. you've got these tall girls getting under 130lbs, it just doesn't look nice.... but then you've also got the small fit ones who do :D



Well, I know really skinny people who really just can't gain weight no matter how hard they try. They don't have eating disorders or anything, I guess it's just the way their bodies process food. I guess they could gain muscle weight, but I'm talking about fat weight...


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21 Jul 2008, 6:50 pm

I like this thread. For those guys that like bigger girls, yay for you ! !! :D


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21 Jul 2008, 7:21 pm

Wow, I thought the reaction to this thread would be far more negative when I started reading it. :P

This really reminds me of the constant redundant "debates" about what's a "healthy" figure over at the Internet's as*hole, and Hollywood's consistent brain damage over what it means to be "fat". Curves are typically win.

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21 Jul 2008, 9:21 pm

I am pleased to hear that so many men like women who don't look like stick figures. I have a firmly curvaceous physique and I have no interest in drastically altering it.



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23 Jul 2008, 4:32 am

Why should it be more admirable to be attracted to full-figured women than slender women?



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23 Jul 2008, 6:57 am

Finally, a thread that big, round Sid can be proud of. :O)


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23 Jul 2008, 10:54 am

Obesity and *Heaviness* are often caused by metabolism. I wonder-Are there any women here who like BBM/fat, portly Men???
It seems pretty clear to me that women have MUCH less tolerance for men being overweight than vice versa. Stimulants can provide assistance with weightloss because they elevate metabolism; but the MOST effective way to lose weight is using enzyme inhibitors like C75 and Cerulenin which alter how the body metabolizes fat(by preventing its synthesis in the first place).



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23 Jul 2008, 2:42 pm

ecky wrote:
Why should it be more admirable to be attracted to full-figured women than slender women?


I don't know about it being more admirable, per se, but comforting for those of us who are not thin, because there are a lot more curvy women than skinny women out there, but it feels like sometimes men only go for the thin ones.



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23 Jul 2008, 3:49 pm

madam_mim wrote:
ecky wrote:
Why should it be more admirable to be attracted to full-figured women than slender women?


I don't know about it being more admirable, per se, but comforting for those of us who are not thin, because there are a lot more curvy women than skinny women out there, but it feels like sometimes men only go for the thin ones.


I think for some men, the attraction to skinny women is a lifestyle thing. They are fit and want women that can keep up with them. For others it's a 'looks' thing. The media likes the waif look, or 'boobs on a stick' look and some guys just want what they see on tv.

I'm not thin myself and in the real world, I see a lot of men with big women. Sometimes, even thin men with women 250 lbs. or more. What is strange is that I rarely ever see the reverse in real life, though on TV you see fat guys with skinny girls all the time.



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23 Jul 2008, 3:53 pm

Blasty wrote:
I like curvy women. :D




Your not the only one who like curvy women! Giggity!



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23 Jul 2008, 3:54 pm

Same here!


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23 Jul 2008, 4:38 pm

I like chubby guys, too! I don't mind smaller guys but the chub is just so nice to cuddle. They're also usually more understanding of MY chub.



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23 Jul 2008, 5:11 pm

Haliphron wrote:
It seems pretty clear to me that women have MUCH less tolerance for men being overweight than vice versa.


Are you serious?

Don't get me wrong; I don't think many woman would put pudge on their wish-lists at the bake-me-a-man registry.

When it comes down to it, though, what gets women hooked is something besides looks. As long as a guy is reasonably healthy, wears comfortable, appropriate, flattering clothing, and doesn't smell bad, he just has to connect with the woman on some level. The toxin of thinking women will never be interested in a fat guy is a bigger barrier to success with women than is women's lack of immediate attraction to a fat guy's appearance.

I mistakenly yet doggedly associate lack of pudge with an active lifestyle. Since I feel better when I'm active, and find things like jogging more enjoyable with company, that's something I'd want to be able to share w/ a partner.

Looking back at a range of pseudo boyfriends I've had, body shape upon meeting has been an INVERSE measure of potential for shared activity. All were lean-looking and ALL objected to my workout time or even things like taking walks. Oh gosh, even the serpent was skinny when we met, and ridiculed working out. None of them made an effort to maintain excellent hygiene, or to dress reasonably nicely, or to participate in my life in a way that made me more _me_ for having them around.

My most recent mad crush was on a man who'd def. qualify as morbidly obese, but I don't think he'd have been up for shared activity. (What I really wish is that we'd had a chance to work together more closely over a longer period of time, b/c the project would have gotten off the ground.) He smelled really really good, and always wore a nice shirt with an undershirt (vest for Brits) underneath. Once I ran into him in the plant, chatted for about five minutes, and when I got back to the offices I couldn't concentrate b/c his scent, whatever it was, was wafting about. Probably only in my head. Something about the way he worked had been a turn-on before I ever took that project.

Then there was a really really fat guy who made some boyfriend noises. My money says he blamed his weight for my non-response. What I ~really~ found unattractive about him: he seemed to have me in the potential-wife category; he drove a 7er BMW; he wore custom-made suits and hadn't known the lining was silk; he was already repeating stories the second time we met; he had a family name that made it very clear he'd never, ever tolerate a woman keeping her own name. (I wasn't thinking of -marrying- him, I just didn't like the attitude. b/c it goes along w/ things like presuming the woman wants kids and will do all the childrearing.) His nostalgia for a bygone political era was more than distasteful to me. His fat became ugly in my eyes, but no uglier than his haircut or his smile or the shape of his hands.

There's also the factor of mate as status symbol. There's a lot more pressure on men to show off a "presentable" woman than there is on women to land a physically attractive man. That explains a lot of men's preferences for rail-thin modelesque women - supply is lower. A woman's friends will always say something nice about her guy's looks; most guys' friends will take any chance to point out her flaws and tell him he could do better. Men who've been heavy then lost weight without accepting their bodies at any size seem the most terrified of a woman with a bit of meat on her bones.

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24 Jul 2008, 4:02 pm

I don't mind a little pudginess in a man, as long as he doesn't mind getting out and doing stuff with me. Backpacking, hiking, mountain biking...
But a man who counted calories like the stereotype of a thin person, who couldn't eat with me because he was afraid to get fat, would be just as unattractive as a man who couldn't go for a walk without huffing and puffing.



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06 Dec 2010, 11:45 pm

gbollard wrote:
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If she's also an Aspie hippie, that only sweetens the deal.


How does a hippie get fat eating grains and lentils?


I'm a fat Aspie hippie.

Though I do eat more than just grains and lentils,
it's nowhere near what many people stereotype me as eating.

Bigots like a few posters on this thread who apparently think fat people sit around eating friend chicken (I'm a VEGAN of four years) don't make me feel very good about myself, though. :(


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06 Dec 2010, 11:55 pm

sojournertruth wrote:
I don't mind a little pudginess in a man, as long as he doesn't mind getting out and doing stuff with me. Backpacking, hiking, mountain biking...
But a man who counted calories like the stereotype of a thin person, who couldn't eat with me because he was afraid to get fat, would be just as unattractive as a man who couldn't go for a walk without huffing and puffing.

While I don't like stuffing my face with food, I believe that if you're active you shouldn't need to count calories. You sound like me almost, I like being active although school and the weather forces me to be sedentary. I've never been backpacking or up close and personal with nature, but I do enjoy a nice reasonably long bike ride - on a road bike mind you.