Haliphron wrote:
It seems pretty clear to me that women have MUCH less tolerance for men being overweight than vice versa.
Are you serious?
Don't get me wrong; I don't think many woman would put pudge on their wish-lists at the bake-me-a-man registry.
When it comes down to it, though, what gets women hooked is something besides looks. As long as a guy is reasonably healthy, wears comfortable, appropriate, flattering clothing, and doesn't smell bad, he just has to connect with the woman on some level. The toxin of thinking women will never be interested in a fat guy is a bigger barrier to success with women than is women's lack of immediate attraction to a fat guy's appearance.
I mistakenly yet doggedly associate lack of pudge with an active lifestyle. Since I feel better when I'm active, and find things like jogging more enjoyable with company, that's something I'd want to be able to share w/ a partner.
Looking back at a range of pseudo boyfriends I've had, body shape upon meeting has been an INVERSE measure of potential for shared activity. All were lean-looking and ALL objected to my workout time or even things like taking walks. Oh gosh, even the serpent was skinny when we met, and ridiculed working out. None of them made an effort to maintain excellent hygiene, or to dress reasonably nicely, or to participate in my life in a way that made me more _me_ for having them around.
My most recent mad crush was on a man who'd def. qualify as morbidly obese, but I don't think he'd have been up for shared activity. (What I really wish is that we'd had a chance to work together more closely over a longer period of time, b/c the project would have gotten off the ground.) He smelled really really good, and always wore a nice shirt with an undershirt (vest for Brits) underneath. Once I ran into him in the plant, chatted for about five minutes, and when I got back to the offices I couldn't concentrate b/c his scent, whatever it was, was wafting about. Probably only in my head. Something about the way he worked had been a turn-on before I ever took that project.
Then there was a really really fat guy who made some boyfriend noises. My money says he blamed his weight for my non-response. What I ~really~ found unattractive about him: he seemed to have me in the potential-wife category; he drove a 7er BMW; he wore custom-made suits and hadn't known the lining was silk; he was already repeating stories the second time we met; he had a family name that made it very clear he'd never, ever tolerate a woman keeping her own name. (I wasn't thinking of -marrying- him, I just didn't like the attitude. b/c it goes along w/ things like presuming the woman wants kids and will do all the childrearing.) His nostalgia for a bygone political era was more than distasteful to me. His fat became ugly in my eyes, but no uglier than his haircut or his smile or the shape of his hands.
There's also the factor of mate as status symbol. There's a lot more pressure on men to show off a "presentable" woman than there is on women to land a physically attractive man. That explains a lot of men's preferences for rail-thin modelesque women - supply is lower. A woman's friends will always say something nice about her guy's looks; most guys' friends will take any chance to point out her flaws and tell him he could do better. Men who've been heavy then lost weight without accepting their bodies at any size seem the most terrified of a woman with a bit of meat on her bones.
More women are intolerant of smokers than of masculine cushioning.
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