Is this a common, normal symptom of AS and Autism?

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18 Jul 2008, 11:28 pm

Does anybody else have any advice for me?



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18 Jul 2008, 11:47 pm

Not being snide, but have you been to an opthamologist? Might help to rule out eye functions first...

Sometimes blot out parts of scenes, more in full-field vision than watching television from across the room. Subtitles absolutely kill, can't read and watch the movie which frustrates much original language anime; usually leads to watching dubs first, then the sub version to enjoy the vocals as intoned. Can't imagine not following television, but have video gamed since Atari 2600 was released -- watching is a skill, too.


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19 Jul 2008, 12:00 am

DJRnold wrote:
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LUCKILY, I don't have the problem you describe, but there HAVE been times where I have hyperfocused on something and seen what you are talking about.

People are supposed to have a visual field of about 180 degrees, horizontally. Apparently I even have a few degrees past that. How is YOURS? Bear in mind that most people, including me, have more and more ability until about half of the arc in the center(so 0-45 and 135-180 may not be usable for precise identification or reading.). Do you have about that ability give or take a few degrees? If NO, I would say you should get your eyes checked by an opthamologist ASAP! That could be a sign of things like glaucoma. Otherwise, you can probably get used to doing more.

Does that 180 degrees represent how far left and right you can see if you look either way, or how far left and right you can see all at the same time? My peripheral vision isn't very good. And I don't see everything within a 180 degree range, because I am automatically focused on one point, in this case it's the cursor thing (a flashy | ) and each letter that I write.
When I get "lost in my head", I'm not even consciously aware of what my eyes are seeing. Sometimes that happens when I'm looking at somone, and it makes them accuse of me of staring at them. I guess technically I was staring at them, but I wasn't actually looking at them.


By SEE, I mean perceive them with vision. The clarity gets SUBSTANTIALLY better as it approaches that 90% degree arc. The 180 basically means you can see the area in front of a wall, and the front of the wall, if it was level with deepest exposed parts of the right and left eye sockets.

If you "get lost in your head", you wouldn't be paying attention to it.

Basically, if you have ANY doubt about what I mean, and haven't had a complete eyetest in a year, get at LEAST a good eyetest including periperal vision and glaucoma.



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19 Jul 2008, 12:04 am

DJRnold wrote:
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If your peripheral vision is not good... is there any chance that you have tunnel vision? That's a condition where you don't have peripheral vision, or have reduced peripheral vision. And it could definitely cause trouble seeing a big picture just as much as other stuff could.
I looked up tunnel vision, and if this is what it looks like, then I definately don't have it.


NOBODY can know, without a test, least of all YOU! The stuff you are talking about is one of the ******ADVANCED****** stages of the result of the problem I am asking you to check. It starts out as a MINOR deficit, like I describe, that even the PROFESSIONALS need to REALLY look for, and it GRADUALLY advances to what you show! EVENTUALLY, the person can go totally BLIND!



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19 Jul 2008, 1:20 am

My peripheral vision doesn't seem to be as good as most people's, but the difference is pretty slight, and has been stable for pretty much all my life (and I've been to eye doctors LOTS of times throughout my life and in recent years, due to my needing glasses to see, and a magnifying glass too to read, and they've confirmed I don't have eye illnesses like glaucoma, just astigmatism).


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19 Jul 2008, 2:22 am

I can see things off to the side, but I don't recognize them. I can't read words that are more than maybe 2 or 3 degrees off center (a wild guess). I don't recognize faces in my peripheral vision either - somebody standing 45 degrees off to my side is just a figure. On a few occasions I've walked right past close friends without noticing them just because I didn't look straight at them. Makes driving interesting. I've always assumed this was true for everyone. I have 20/15 vision too, and I would definitely know if the stuff off center was out of focus. It's not, it's just I don't recognize things there.



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19 Jul 2008, 5:07 am

This is one of my biggest problems. I see the details and miss the big picture, and am not able to connect the details well enough to get the full meaning of what I'm seeing. Don't think it has anything to do with my vision, because all my senses and thought processes function in the same way. I always seem to miss the big picture, and I feel that my world is very fragmented. Think this has to do with weak central coherence.



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19 Jul 2008, 8:18 am

earthmonkey wrote:
My peripheral vision doesn't seem to be as good as most people's, but the difference is pretty slight, and has been stable for pretty much all my life (and I've been to eye doctors LOTS of times throughout my life and in recent years, due to my needing glasses to see, and a magnifying glass too to read, and they've confirmed I don't have eye illnesses like glaucoma, just astigmatism).


Yeah, some people are just UNLUCKY! I have had much of the same trouble since I was like 33. 8-( LUCKILY it started later than you, and isn't as bad and isn't progressing as fast, but it is bad and I hate it. Of course, I knew many people in school that were as bad as you.



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19 Jul 2008, 8:27 am

the_falling_frog wrote:
I can see things off to the side, but I don't recognize them. I can't read words that are more than maybe 2 or 3 degrees off center (a wild guess). I don't recognize faces in my peripheral vision either - somebody standing 45 degrees off to my side is just a figure. On a few occasions I've walked right past close friends without noticing them just because I didn't look straight at them. Makes driving interesting. I've always assumed this was true for everyone. I have 20/15 vision too, and I would definitely know if the stuff off center was out of focus. It's not, it's just I don't recognize things there.


WOW, I don't even know how you can drive! That didn't show up in the driving test? Eye exams, at least in the US, RARELY cover that, though some DO! I took at least 2 such tests in the past 20 years.

At least one doctor had to special order equipment, and I had to wait 2 weeks!! !! !! WHY was I so "special"? I couldn't have any of the glaucoma tests(which test for pressure). Glaucoma causes loss of peripheral vision though, so I had a peripheral vision test to check for it.

The device was basically a chin rest situated behind a chamber with little lights all over. They blinked randomly, and I had to click a button when I saw one. Some were FAR out of the normal perceptive area. There is at least one that uses a reaction in the eye for feedback, so you don't have to do anything. Anyway, that could probably tell you what area you could see.



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20 Jul 2008, 1:47 pm

Vimse wrote:
This is one of my biggest problems. I see the details and miss the big picture, and am not able to connect the details well enough to get the full meaning of what I'm seeing. Don't think it has anything to do with my vision, because all my senses and thought processes function in the same way. I always seem to miss the big picture, and I feel that my world is very fragmented. Think this has to do with weak central coherence.
That is closer to what I think my problem is. I guess the way that I described my problem made it seem like a vision problem, and maybe that's part of it, but that's not all of it.
It's like all of my brain power is focused on one part of the image and it's ignoring the rest. My eyes are aware of the other people and/or objects in the image, but my brain can only comprehend and analyze one detail at a time. I am completely consciously aware of the detail that my brain is focusing on, but not necessarily the rest of the image.