Is it time to take your money out of the bank?

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10 Oct 2008, 1:40 pm

...and keep it in a box at home or what?

anybody know what to do in this situation?



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10 Oct 2008, 1:45 pm

I took my money out of Bank of America about 11 years ago (rude treatment from tellers and managers), and put it all in a credit union. No worries and no regrets.


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10 Oct 2008, 1:51 pm

Same here. Small, private, limited-risk credit union catering to a community with a stable economic base/good risk profile (USAA federal CU, started for employees of the insurance company that insures miltary officers and their dependents.) Not worried.

But I do owe 40% more than what my home is worth now, and live too far away form where I work. But that's Florida, for you....



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10 Oct 2008, 2:00 pm

Well, in the USA there is FDIC insurance on bank accounts up to 100,000 or 250,000 dollars.
So if you have a lot more than that in one account, take out only the "extra" and use it to buy NEEDS (food,etc.) and VALUABLES (like gold or other things to trade, NOT designer fashion accessories).

That's "Just my two cents" as they say.



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10 Oct 2008, 2:04 pm

The money is insured. I'm not taking it out. 1/2% interest is better than nothing.

I'm letting my money market funds sit, as well. They would be fine if others weren't panicking and forcing them to sell off assets to cash out those wanting to get out. What goes down usually, eventually, goes back up. To the extent stock values represented the real worth of the companies, the market will recover. To the extent it was hot air, maybe not. But there isn't nearly as much hot air in it as there was in 1929, so there is only so far it can go down before wiser heads buy it back up and stabilize things.


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10 Oct 2008, 2:21 pm

Postperson wrote:
...and keep it in a box at home or what?

anybody know what to do in this situation?

You need to check if your government protects deposits, and if so up to what value. Even if you're below that threshold, it might be best to distribute it between several banks. You see, a guarantee doesn't mean you'll be able to get your hands on the money when you need it. If a bank goes under and has your money, it may take months, or years, to get it under any guarantee system. If you spread it around several, then even though you increase the risk of not being able to touch some, you reduce the risk of not being able to get any. It would also be wise to hold enough cash in the house to keep you going for a week or so if things really go to the dogs, and the banks stop filling the ATMs. Of course, there are security issues with that.



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10 Oct 2008, 2:24 pm

yeah, let's all panic and make the crisis even worse.

I'm keeping my deposits in my bank, it's guaranteed by the state so why would I follow the mob...


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10 Oct 2008, 2:24 pm

My grandmother didn't trust banks. After she passed the family had to go through her house and find all the cash she had squirreled away. She was ahead of her time.


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10 Oct 2008, 2:27 pm

anna-banana wrote:
I'm keeping my deposits in my bank, it's guaranteed by the state so why would I follow the mob...

Well, the state guarantee's great, but money's not much use when you can't get your hands on it. And if things really get bad, you can forget paying with plastic...



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10 Oct 2008, 2:33 pm

Money is not guaranteed in Australia but the big 4 banks here are regarded as a lot safer than overseas banks because we have much stronger financial regulation here and most banks are a lot less exposed to the US subprime mortgage bundle market. Parliament is currently tabling guarantee legislation but they only want to cover $20,000. I think the lack of regulation in other countries means they would have to guarantee savings. or that's the argument here anyway.

I'm not that worried about Oz banks, but it seems to be spiralling out of control this thing.

My parents were kids in the last Great Depression. They were very frugal people. :cry:

I think some people will have almost no superannuation now.



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10 Oct 2008, 3:25 pm

I wouldn't do that or even encourage it.
If you are gonna do it, keep it a secret. Why? When people panic and they all take out their savings the financial crisis gets even worse.
I would take out some money and keep it at a safe box in my house just for an emergency but I would keep doing deposits and using them to keep the economy on.

I've lived several crisis in the past, I'm from Mexico. When banks have no money the currency devaluates.



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10 Oct 2008, 4:33 pm

caramateo wrote:

I would take out some money and keep it at a safe box in my house just for an emergency


also worth turning some of that money into universally acceptable currency such as silver coins. Silver isnt likely to lose its price and at least its something shiney to collect, plus wouldnt be susceptible to hyper-inflation like certain monetary systems.



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10 Oct 2008, 4:49 pm

I suppose that if you have money that's not in the bank yet, then a safe place for it is bury it in a non-metallic container so it won't be metal-detected, and can't be stolen by burglars. Use either geocaching or surveying equipment to establish it's location. Don't make anything that looks obviously like a treasure map.

But if it loses it's value then doing that will be pointless.

And also, it doesn't do anyone any good while it is out of circulation. I think that changing the amount of money in circulation can be harmful whether it is increased or decreased. The money-SUPPLY MUST MEET DEMAND.

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16 Oct 2008, 6:59 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
My grandmother didn't trust banks. After she passed the family had to go through her house and find all the cash she had squirreled away. She was ahead of her time.

I had a great aunt like that, when she died, people found thousands of dollars stuffed into the walls, rugs and cushions of her farmhouse. :lol:



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16 Oct 2008, 7:00 pm

caramateo wrote:
I wouldn't do that or even encourage it.
If you are gonna do it, keep it a secret. Why? When people panic and they all take out their savings the financial crisis gets even worse.
I would take out some money and keep it at a safe box in my house just for an emergency but I would keep doing deposits and using them to keep the economy on.

I've lived several crisis in the past, I'm from Mexico. When banks have no money the currency devaluates.

great points. I'm not taking money out of my account... but then again, there's only $10 in there right now. :lol: There's not much I can do on $10.



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16 Oct 2008, 8:28 pm

correct me if I'm wrong....but wasn't it a "run on the banks."...by the average person that sparked the "Depression"?....and the birth of the "Keynesian" mind set.....on macro-economics....which tries to convince us that government intervention is not only necessary but cruicial.....to a nation's stability?

Here the bank requires 30 days notice (in the fine print) to clean out your account.....(most banks don't use that option).......but they have the safe-guard in place.....if need be...
also here .....deposits are insured for up to a $100,000.......however an individual would not be able to get their full amount immediately.....they would receive a portion and have to wait for the rest.....

as far as investments and stocks....usually what goes down.........goes back up.....etc....so it's not always a good idea to panic and sell....cause today's price....can be a bargain basement price for a saavy buyer....and can swell quickly and depending on your financial clout become out of reach just as quickly...(if you wannna buy it back!!)

on the subject of money - good point about keeping it in circulation...that's what most government intervention attempts.....banks....create money based on debt.....and deposits....and ratios.............10,000 can create 100's of thousands of dollars....based on bank ratios.....deposits....and debt....(an ingenious system)......interest..(which was actually a crime way.....back in the day - it was called: usury!)...is the fuel that stokes the flame.....and because most banking systems here are a closed loop....as long a people are borrowing and depositing and spending.....the illusion of wealth is created and no body questions it...

money itself - only a bank note........a prommissory note.......not backed with anything but "air" and the concept of the value that we place on it....
the day's of the "green-back" are long gone....

as for: stashing the paper.....we call legal tender....

why bother?.....
if the system crashes......or if it inflates to the point of becoming worthless.....stashing it...isn't going to change anything....

my idea: balance......small portfolio....(mid-risk).....small amount in savings.....hard assets....(land - water - and did I say land?...heh...) also very good idea about coins.....silver, gold if you can get it....

(but don't tell anyone)............remember back in the day.....when people's gold was expropriated by the government............(stolen - personal opinion)...

also.....get into a network..........of people willing to barter............(but beware of those who will claim it to the IRS....or Rev Can....


and hold on ------------and enjoy the ride...


p.s.

I would so love to hear from some-one from "Iceland".............I've heard some stories....and wonder.....if its just being exagerated.....or what?....

final thought: it's non unconceivable that our currency as we know it may become the "Amero-dollar"............like the "Euro-dollar"............which the Krona is definately going to have to move over for....