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CockneyRebel
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15 Oct 2004, 9:34 am

For those of you who are ver the age of 19 or under the age of 13, do you have an unusual fear of Teenagers, and for those of you who are in your Teens, are you afraid of your Peers?

I've been scared of Teenagers my whole life. I always thought they were loud and ignorant. I know that not all Teens are like that, but a lot of them seem to be so. The kids who were on my School Bus were Special Needs and I must add, very Intelegent, including myself. My last two years on that Bus were sheer Hell. There were some rough Teens on my Bus who went to an Alternative High School. They all thought that they were too good for the rest of us. They kicked in the backs of our seats and called us names like Baby and Re***d. It got to the point where they were kicked off our Bus for good. That day was the best day of my life.

I was also picked on by kids in my Highschool. I say kids, because that what they acted like. They called me Re***d, twerp, Geek, Nerd and Hippie. The last thing that I was called wasn't bad, because it was the truth. I dealt with that every day when I was in Grade 8. There was even a Skater Dude who was two and half heads taller then I was who was calling me by the nic-name that I had in Grade One. During that proccess, he was making fun of my mannish sounding Cockney Accent. I never looked at that punk again, because he didn't deserve my attention.

The kids in my Grade Nine Art Class also got a kick out of picking on me. They called me a Re***d and a Lameass, because I didn't follow the trends of the very late 1980s. One day, after they all left, I gave the Art Teacher all of their names, and they stopped most of their nonsense. They still talked about how lame they thought I was and replaced my name with Alfred P. Doolittle, Eliza Doolittle's Father from 'My Fair Lady' because they thought I wouldn't know who they were talking about. I knew they were talking about me, because I had short hair for a girl at the time and I refused to tight roll my Flairs, and because of my voice. I found a girl who seemed to be two years older than the rest of us and hung out with her for the rest of the year.

I didn't talk to any Teenagers ever again, unless they were the type that I could truly trust.



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15 Oct 2004, 11:15 am

I personally found neurotypical children to be the most intolerant during grades 5 through 8. People never really bothered me much in high school, and I was grateful for that. In fact, several groups of people were fairly accepting of me during my high school years.

I don't know whether this change was due to behavior changes on my part, behavior changes among the neurotypical teenagers, or a combination of the two. I'm certainly not scared of any children or teenagers now, unless they happen to have a gun pointed at me or something.



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15 Oct 2004, 5:28 pm

Iam Too 8O


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16 Oct 2004, 2:25 am

I am a teenager, and for most part, yes I find it to be true that NT teenagers are hateful and close-minded. They are noisy and make random noises, and do things for no reason. They also constantly seek instant gratification and are ignorant. The teenage years, to me, is the period of time where the negative traits of NTs are the easiest to spot.

I have not been beaten physically or anything like that, but people have been spreading nasty rumours about me, and a lot of snide remarks go behind my back.

I think part of it is due to the media and the rampant mass consummerism of today. You did mention trends. The reason teens pick on others is because they are different. So anyone who doesn't like sh***y no talent music from the likes Linkin Park, Maroon 5 and Avril Lavigne (Sorry anyone who are fans, but this is my opinion) or wear whatever trendy expensive clothing everyone else does, gets targeted. They like this stuff because MTV tells them to like it, or they read it in some stupid teenage magazine. Or maybe they're pathetic enough to like it because their 'cool' friends like it.

God, I hate it all. It's like the thought police. :evil:

I find it very ironic, because most teenagers are like "OMG I won't do what you say!!!11!!1!!!1!11 OMG school sucks!! !!11!1" when they are, well, doing EXACTLY WHAT OTHERS say. I'm going to agree with the 'school sucks' bit here, mainly because its true. But the way I see it, its almost as though the corrupt school admin and the popular in-crowd people are flip sides of the same coin...Both are barbaric, oppressive and intolerant of differences. One has the ability to expel you if you don't conform, the other has the ability to make your school life a living hell.

The most ironic thing that has happened lately is that our class slogan is:

"I'M A REBEL. ARE YOU?"

I say, no, you are not. You are just a bunch of sheep following each other around, doing what's popular, buying whatever new useless product you are told to buy. Thier slogan would be more accurate if it said:

"I'M A REBEL. AND YOU BETTER REBEL THE WAY WE DO OR WE WILL HATE YOU AND YOU WILL END UP LIKE THAT RADIOHEAD GUY SITTING IN THE CORNER."

But if it were up to me to decide, our class slogan would be:

"HI. WE ARE CLONES, EXCEPT THAT WE LOOK DIFFERENT."

Sorry for ranting, but to sum it up: I am not scared of my peers, but I do have a great disdain for what they are and what they stand for. I have decided that this so-called bonding among NT teenagers is largely artificial, has no use and no meaning. This is my last year in school before I head of to college, and I don't know if I should consider it a relief, because I don't know if people in college are going to behave in the same way.



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16 Oct 2004, 8:48 am

I am at a selective high school (one that u have to pass a test to go to) so the people there are generally quite intelligent. I agree that teenagers can be ignorant, agressive, and have a group mentality, but I don't really hold it against them. I think that beneath all the arrogance, lack of consideration for others, and agression is simply a person searching for happiness like we all are, and trying to understand and find their place in the world.



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16 Oct 2004, 9:37 am

Im a teenager- I wouldnt say I was scared of my peers though. The ones that scare me are the ones that look grown-up. Following trends and stuff isnt just exclusive to teenagers- its just a little less prominent as people get older.
Human instinct is to fit in and this is strongest when you're a teenager, when you are trying to work out your place in the grand scheme of things. The easiest thing for most to do during such a time of confusion, hormones and general stress is to go with the crowd.


I still hold to my belief that the scariest age-group on earth are children aged 0-6. They really scare me 8O .


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16 Oct 2004, 10:04 am

Quote:
"I'M A REBEL. AND YOU BETTER REBEL THE WAY WE DO OR WE WILL HATE YOU AND YOU WILL END UP LIKE THAT RADIOHEAD GUY SITTING IN THE CORNER."


Heh, I love it. This reminds me of a time during my early teenage years when I was hanging out with a few friends of mine. One person out of the group had managed to steal a pack of cigarettes from a store so that the group could "try out" smoking. I wasn't particularly interested in exposing myself to an addictive substance, so I refused to partake.

I remember one member of the group jokingly say something to the effect of, "Yeah, we're rebelling against society, and Jay's just...Jay."

The entire time I was thinking to myself, "Yes, conforming to your own teenage counterculture is certainly rebellion at its finest. What do you think most adult members of "society" were experimenting with when they were your age? How many members of society today still smoke? Ugh."

The fact of the matter is that while many people in society preach "non-conformity" and "being yourself", its actual practice is widely shunned and misunderstood. As someone who actually questions society's ideals and who does not blindly subscribe to the herd mentality, I can attest to the fact that thinking for yourself is a lonely road to travel.

Incidentally, I only keep up with one member of the group of friends that I spoke of in this post today. He has been addicted to nicotine throughout his adult life and doesn't appear to be quitting anytime soon.



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16 Oct 2004, 1:39 pm

I'm in 7th grade and everyone at my school's very loud, and the boys push eachother (I think thats normal) and the girls scream in eachothers ears when they're happy. (I think. Usually the 8th grade girls are the ones screaming) Not to mention I almost get bumped into alot because people are running around and don't care if they hit someone. I'm not scared of teenagers, a few of them make me mad and I just don't get them. No one has a clue I'm an aspie by the way, they just think I'm weird.



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23 Oct 2004, 12:39 am

Yes....I'm 20. I don't have anything against my peers, but I was bullied pretty badly in my junior high school years and have never really got that trust back. Most of the people at my college are very nice, wonderful people who wouldn't hurt anyone. And I've gotten better at trusting them, trusting that no one is going to do anything to hurt me in some way. But their unpredictability and my lack of ability to understand them .... I still start to panic if I'm stuck in a room with my peers. If I get to class early, I drop my stuff on the desk, take my walkman and get *out* of there until the teacher comes because it's too noisy and i just get overwhelmed being in a rm with so many of my peers alone, the lack of order, the chaos, it scares me.
I mean, it's nothing against them, it's just that, we're on different planets. Their loud music scares me. And etc. I don't know. Living on a college campus is hard sometimes for this reason. It's too unpredictable. adults feel so much safer.



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28 May 2006, 8:30 pm

I'm 15 years old, so right in the middle of teenage years. What fun. (Sarcasm.)
(Edit: forgot to put this in earlier.) Actually, a lot of people think I am at least 20 because of maturity and I look like I'm 20. I'm often mistaken for a universty student, which can be nifty.

Sadly, I go to a rather small high school, in which the majority of the kids are very sheltered and have no idea what real life could possibly be like. These are kids who will probably never have to work, who always have at least 300 bucks in their wallets (and still claim they're broke), and will get a convertible on their 16th birthday. Possibly two. These people will never have to save for college, will never have to worry about going hungry or not being able to pay rent. For some reason though, a lot of the teenagers over here think they are mature and intellegent and very much aware of real life. (Which, more than anything else, makes me want to smack them.) I can think of four high school students who work, only four (one of whom happens to be the sweetest guy in the world and none of this applies to him - he knows a lot about real life through the saddest ways possible), yet all of the teenagers seem to think that they have the right to complain if mommy or daddy does not buy them the newest, hippest piece of junk. They also feel they have the right to complain about how much time school takes up and how much homework takes away their free time, but they never have to worry about working and trying to earn a living on top of that. (And they'll all blow it off anyway and fail, but that's not the point.) There is actually a girl at our school who gets $50 a week, whether or not she wants to do her chores. For goodness sake's even the exchange students we have eventually pick up this disease of all knowing-ness - one girl constantly informs us that we are all mispronouncing the English language and that he is pronounced like hay.

As for bullying/picking on, it's not usually aimed at me. I'm known for usually staying in a corner and not speaking unless I have to, but that I'll end up doing entire projects by myself because I am smarter than a lot of the kids in my grade. (I don't want to sound conceited - I'm fully aware that statment does - but I really am. I get As without any trouble in classes most people get Ds in and I'm in the advanced courses. I just can't spell. :-)) I'm also known for being generally nice, but the majority of people realize that I'm not joking when I tell them to do something. It takes a lot to stir up my temper to a point where I'll actually do something about it, but once it's been stirred enough there will be consequences.
For a while, one girl (in all fairness, I scratched up her hand pretty badly (just with my nails, I swear! No one ever believes me about that, but my nails are just naturally really sharp) because she was dragging my little brother, who is like 70 pounds and a half a foot shorter than her, down the aisle of the bus because she wanted the seat he had) went around calling me an it for awhile. It stopped when she said it to my face and I thanked her from releasing me from the sterotypes of gender. And since she still didn't get it I went on a long complex speech which confused her even more and embarrased her because it proved she wasn't all knowing. And since then she's left me alone.

My general opinion on teenagers is that a lot of them are very immature. I know there are exceptions, but the majority of them just need to be avoided until they're about 30 or so. (Not to offend any members who might be in that age range of 13-30, it's just as a general NT observation.)


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28 May 2006, 8:39 pm

...and I thought it was just me!!

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29 May 2006, 12:36 am

Most teenagers go through a rebellious stage, where they want to get away from their parents and gain a sense of independence. In doing this, they pick up on things they think defines rebellion, and it is probably things the school or their parents do not like. It has little to do with rebelling against society. Hell, in this day and age, if you try to break up a fight and bring peace, you're rebelling against society ... simply because you're not trying to start war.

Teenagers who smoke aren't rebelling. In fact, they're catering to a large sector of society, which could be called the smoking population. If you really want to rebel, you'd stop smoking and encourage others to do so, then try to convince others to grow pot, which could solve a good deal of the world's problems, and you'd further encourage them to flick on a Jello Biafra spoken word CD ... That's rebellion, not wearing skimpy clothing and listening to the MTV sloganeering.

The thing that strikes me about your post, however, is that part of what you were speaking about were teenagers who had special needs to begin with. They should know how it feels, and if they don't, maybe we should begin to pick on them and call them names. Hell, they'd get really offended if we just said something like ... "Know what? I don't think you're any different from anyone else! You're just lame, trendy and completely superficial! You follow rebellious trends and call it rebellion! Do you know who Jello Biafra is?"

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29 May 2006, 6:41 am

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I think part of it is due to the media and the rampant mass consummerism of today. You did mention trends. The reason teens pick on others is because they are different. So anyone who doesn't like sh***y no talent music from the likes Linkin Park, Maroon 5 and Avril Lavigne (Sorry anyone who are fans, but this is my opinion) or wear whatever trendy expensive clothing everyone else does, gets targeted. They like this stuff because MTV tells them to like it, or they read it in some stupid teenage magazine. Or maybe they're pathetic enough to like it because their 'cool' friends like it.


Conformity in itself isn't bad. Being socially excluded for being different is bad. But if someone wants to do something because someone else is doing it, then who cares? It doesn't mean that person is pathetic, and I suggest you stop thinking of people that way. Who knows, your next friend might like Avril Lavigne (even though I thought she was out of fashion, I remember her from years ago), watch MTV and you know, do typical teen stuff. It'd be a shame if you missed out on an opportunity to get to know someone who might like you just because you thought of them as a mindless sheep.



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29 May 2006, 7:37 am

Teenagers AND children both scare me & I do my best to avoid them. Have felt this way as a child, a teenager, and now at age 33. Always preferred talking to adults or teachers-less likely to torment me & more likely to appreciate my personality. Growing up, was picked on verbally by other kids, both older or younger than I. Am easily intimidated, still fear youthful cruelty.


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29 May 2006, 8:52 am

Personally, I've never been afraid of teenagers, but I've always been afraid of small children (they're loud, and they touch you, and they smell weird... *shudder*). I've found that kids are the nastiest from fifth to eighth grade myself. In my middle school years, bullying got so bad that I lost my temper completely and screamed at my main tormentor for half an hour--I actually grabbed her by the collar when she tried to run for it and kept yelling. Then, when her friend tried to save a little face by insulting me, I tried to strangle the friend. (I couldn't catch her, fortunately.)

High school...not so much. I suspect it's because by the time I got to high school, a) I am/was in all honors classes so that I don't spend any time with people likely to try to torment me, and b) a lot of the kids are maturing.

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29 May 2006, 8:53 am

I hate teenagers. It seems to me as if they never are at school and I've been bullied by these little bastards enough to have to press myself to not go a long way around them to avoid them.