im tired of girls not liking me

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yes this is a whiney post, but im sick of it. girls do not like me! i think this is why im bisexual, if girls would pay more attention to me i would be 100% striaght. does anyone else have this problem? naturally i cant just crash a bar to get a womans attention because not only is it a waste of money, but i havent been in the loop since about 1996. what am i gonna talk about? hey baby wanna talk about fire agates? oh yah i can almost see me never having this problem again! join a club? im 28! not 16. im not going to college, and the only time i hang out intown is if im walking somewhere. this is a nitemare! so what am i gonna do? make a post about it. god i hate being socially ret*d, i wish i could walk in the room like whats his name in that movie the mask. put it on and you are one smooth opperator otherwise fat chance!

first - do you have positive confirmation that girls don't like you? The trick is to go in assuming at worst they don't care (most don't, and it's not just limited to us...it's a sort of practiced affectation), and that with a little luck, they might like you.

second - are fire agates out? maybe opals are in, I'm not a geologist. Jewelry, maybe approaching that direction instead of collectibles might work better.

third - believe it or not, they're just as scared as you are. Any age, condition, etc., they're waiting for you to make the first move. Fear is the mind-killer, let it wash through you, leaving nothing.

It's safer to assume they don't like you, since going into something thinking a girl likes you when she doesn't can be far more disastrous than the converse...

well yes. i do, im like the wierd brother. ok let me explain, i have three sisters and two of my sisters are around my age. ive tried getting one of my sisters to hook me up with her friends but she flat out told me this pirticular girl was unintrested because she thought i was strange so i was like ok no big deal, then i went to a strip club with one of my other sisters and she told me the only way im getting any is if i pay for it, exept it wasnt so blunt like that. she was like, "have you thought about going to las vegas?" we all know what that means. so at this point im doomed, obviously im not going to go up to a hot girl and make a fool out of myself. fire agates are a million times rarer than oplas but i am willing to talk about opals, so i guess i dont really have a problem changing the subject so as long as it stays in the gem world, or one of its relatives

You mentioned bisexuality. Were you implying that men can always fall back on other men for sex if needed? I'm male, and I find that men don't like me.

i guess. you should see how many guys hit on me, its disturbing. it doesnt really bother me though. but im going with it because girls pay no intrest in me at all, so what else am i gonna do you know?

I shall be twenty seven in Janaury 2009. I am quite good at friends, hopeless as a potential lover.

Have you ever read the opening soliloquy of Richard III (the one beginning, "Now is the Winter of our discontent made glorious Summer by this Son/Sun of York." Later in the speech he seems to essentially be saying that he is consumed with envy and contempt for lovers:
"Strut before a wanton ambling nymph... court an amorous looking glass... if I cannot be a lover I will become a villain."

Way to find a vent for pent up libido, channelling it from creation into destruction. I believe that the demon, whom you may call an alien if you so desire, who manipulated Richard, and earlier Mordred, later possessing Cardinal Richelieu, Citizen Robespierre, Grigorii Rasputin and Joseph Stalin, is currently striving to persuade me to become the False Prophet (mercifully I am resisting, with God's help). He is one of the two most formidable Servants of the Enemy I have encountered - the other is Lilith. Asmodeus is more powerful, but rather lacking in subtlety. Pray you never meet any of them!

I call him Curunir, "Man of Skill," (the Elvish name for Saruman, itself a play on the Anglo-Saxon for Man of Skill and Man of Pain) and Palpatine (successively Senator, Chancellor and Emperor). Hmm, similar meteoric rise to Borusa, successively Cardinal, Chancellor and Lord President. Palpatine must love the letters o and r. I wonder if he will convert to Origin. "Hallowed are the Ori." Perhaps he enjoys eating organically grown oranges in his lighter moments, when he uses the name Tom.

Great signature by the way, Richard Benson. Did you write this poem yourself?

Right there with ya man. Ladies no likey in the real world but on the internet I'm a casanova! I don't know what it is, but something about me makes women want to take their clothes off and snap pictures of themselves and send them to me. Since I was like 19 or so.

well, I wasn't trying to be so literal... I'm just saying that there's probably a way to insert your knowledge into the conversation to make it interesting.

btw - Prostitution is illegal in the country Las Vegas is in (and it takes up about a third of Nevada);
you have to drive to the next county...the Mustang Ranch is there (the only brothel that was
ever taken over by the IRS...if you can't make money with a brothel, maybe pimping isn't
your line of work...

You don't have to actually assume they like you; that's not true. If they're there to meet guys, they have to have some openness to finding a guy they like. Maybe just watch what the other
guys are doing, and see what works. Incorporate that into your approach (don't blatantly copy, because that's obvious), etc.

there's all sorts of threads here about this. I think there's even some pdf-style books that help.
If you have sisters (I missed out on that), maybe they can explain how to meet women (for romance), and maybe they'll help. I know it's a cliche, but be yourself. Women have very sensitive BS detectors, and many of them don't like fake guys (or so I'm told)

[quote="richardbenson"]yes this is a whiney post, but im sick of it. girls do not like me! i think this is why im bisexual, if girls would pay more attention to me i would be 100% striaght. does anyone else have this problem?[quote]

I feel You, my brother. I have it just the same with males They all hate me for some unknown reason... I was many times thinking about "becoming" lesbian or bi... but You can not "become". It is something that people are born with

I know how you all feel!

I've been trying to attract women ever since I turned 15. I'm 23 now and in the past 8 years, I haven't been able to get a girl to even look at me for more than a second. I don't know if it's just me or whether that's the way women are, or maybe I was never meant to fall in love. I constantly worry about the future. Especially now with Christmas around the corner. I fear that I am doomed to spend an eternity alone with only my thoughts for company.

I respect honesty more than feel good lies, so good on you.



I've learned to accept it, I don't like it but really, there is nothing I can do about it.



Welcome to the club.



Some bar women try to shyst guys into buying them free drinks so it would be more than you think out of your wallet, and you would still get nothing.



Girls like talking about stupid stuff like most humans, just ramble on nonsensically about the Knicks or something, I personally hate small talk, it's pointless, redundant, and repeats itself ad infintum.



"Abnormality" and "sanity" in human subjects is a nice little lie humans have built themselves, so the statement "You're odd" just means "We don't like you for whatever reason".



Sounds like they think you're a pushover, people wouldn't say anything like that to me.



I don't see the "buy a whore" insinuation in that.



The so-called "norms" make themselves look like complete imbeciles all the time and they're completely unaware of it, I don't see how going up to girl and talking to her is making one look like a "fool".

Not at all. Girls never used to pay attention to me, and it was likely because I acted so needy of their attention and I have always been intensely gynotropic. Once I stopped figuratively begging them for their attention, they started paying attention to me. Besides, you're blaming women for your bisexuality. This is an inversion of causality. What may be happening is that the girls somehow sense that you are "different" from heterosexual males, and they react to their intuition by avoiding you.


All else being equal, girls and women prefer to be with men that will listen attentively, rather than talk endlessly. However, if you happen to be wearing one of your fire agates, and a woman just happens to notice, then you might be able to get her interested in the entire jewelry-making process.


You have to go where the women are, and not just sit on your butt in front of your computer, posting rants about your sorry condition. Women will never want to meet you if they don't even know if you exist except on line!


Dream on.

However, you are on the right track. If you want to attract women, then you need to act like the kind of man that women like. Confidence, optimism, and generousity will always catch women's attention, as will attentive listening and an overall friendly manner. Of course, your appearance and hygeine are also important. Dress as if you were going on a job interview.

And ditch the anger. Women tend to shy away from angry young men, unless they enjoy abuse (believe it or not, such women are very rare).

They still don't with me.



False. I for one am cold, not needy, yet girls don't show me the time of the day.



Again a falsity. I personally know this to be false.



So it's ok for girls to ignore him because he's bi? LOL! Seriously you need to stop rationalizing others bad behaviour.



When I wasn't the cold inhuman machine that I am today, I was a rather humane person and I can say this is again this is a falsity from personal experience.



Won't help if society has deemed you unnacceptable.



Falsity, again personal experience and observation.



Unless you're an executive, girls don't like well dressed men, just ask around.



Have you ever observed couples? There is a ridiculous amount of animosity between couples, kind of makes me glad that girls don't like me.

That's your experience. My experiences are equally true.


Solipsism. Just because you have not expereinced life as I have, does not make my experiences false. We're not talking religion here, but only male-female relationships.


Yes, it is okay for anyone to ignore anyone else for any reason that they choose, and it is not bad behavior to do so.


Being humane means only that you were merciful, your Lordship. It does not mean that you were approachable. Even if you are happy inside, if you appear imperious and judgemental, few women will want your company. Again, your solipsism is betrayed by your judgment that my experiences aren't real.


If you want to be accepted by society, then you have to make yourself acceptable to society. Stop blaming others for your own failure to adapt to societal norms.


Solipsism. Again, judging your experiences as the only valid experiences to be had is likely the cause of your solitude.


Dress for trash, and you'll attract trash. Dress for success, and you'll attract successful women.


Animosity is natural to the human condition. Again, your solipsism is betrayed by your insistance that everybody behave only as you decide that they should.


Honestly, kid, you should learn to get over yourself. Your experiences and perceptions are not the be-all and do-all of societal norms. There is a whole world out there that gets along just fine without ever having known you, and that will likely continue to do so long after you have died.

There is more to life that just your experiences alone. Rigidity, judgmentalism, and contempt for the lives of others may explain why you are alone. From your perspective, your attitude may seem rational and valid, but from the perspective of others, you may come across ony as cold, uncaring, and lacking in compassion.

Again, get over yourself.