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21 Dec 2008, 11:21 pm

did this ever happen to anyone? sometimes while i'm sleeping, while i'm dreaming I'll know that i'm dreaming and that i could do anything i want because its only a dream. and sometimes while im doing this, i can change the dream or stop the current dream and float into the blackness between dreams.... if im having a bad dream i can change it to a new one and stuff like that. I looked it up and i think its called lucid dreaming. did this ever happen to anyone? maybe its an aspie thing? i asked my NT friends but none of them ever had that happen.... i havent done it in a while but the last few years i've done it alot....
so wat do u think?



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21 Dec 2008, 11:29 pm

Yeah, it happens. Almost every time i sleep.
I kinda learned how to control my dreams because i had a lot of nightmares.



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21 Dec 2008, 11:35 pm

7h wrote:
Yeah, it happens. Almost every time i sleep.
I kinda learned how to control my dreams because i had a lot of nightmares.

Every time?? i wish i could do that....
its so much fun, you can do anything that ur too scared to do in real life and it feels so real... lol



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21 Dec 2008, 11:39 pm

It's happened to me. It really scares me. Other times it's just annoying, because I need real sleep before the alarm clock wakes me up.
If it happens to me a lot, I have to take a klonopin before I go to sleep.



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21 Dec 2008, 11:41 pm

7h wrote:
Yeah, it happens. Almost every time i sleep.
I kinda learned how to control my dreams because i had a lot of nightmares.

Me also in fact the only dreams I seem to have and like you when younger use to be quite scary, but have also learned to control, work through in sub-sleep 8O


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21 Dec 2008, 11:43 pm

bonez wrote:
Every time?? i wish i could do that....
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Not every time, but almost.
It's really great, but the downside is that it sometimes feel like you don't get any real sleep.



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22 Dec 2008, 12:14 am

Mhmm. It's lucid dreaming. I'm not very good at it.



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22 Dec 2008, 2:19 am

Most people never once dream lucidly in the course of their life. So be happy that you get to experience this because most people (including me) do not.

And it is not by any means an Aspie thing, and there is no evidence that I know of leading us to believe that we experience lucid dreaming more or less than the NT population.


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22 Dec 2008, 2:21 am

this happens to me too except its shortly followed by major sweating



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22 Dec 2008, 2:30 am

Interesting about the sweating. I noticed the same with me.

I go lucid a few times a month, much more often if I get to sleep alot.



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22 Dec 2008, 2:31 am

I have lucid dreams occasionally, except every time I figure out I'm dreaming, I will wake myself up. I'm not sure if that's voluntary or not. For example, something weird will happen and I'll say, "Wow, I can't believe this isn't a dream. Wait a minute, yes it is." and then I wake up.



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22 Dec 2008, 2:41 am

Happens a lot. When it happens, I usually try to keep the dream going. Haha, yeah, that happens to me too, wish I could just enjoy it for a few hours, but I usually end up awake. :(


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22 Dec 2008, 3:38 am

I'd heard this could be developed somewhat through the right exercises. Dunno what though. The rarity of lucid dreamers is a key ingredient in the series of fiction stories I'm working on. It's fascinating stuff, dreaming. Almost endless possibilities in fiction, and endless mysteries in fact.

But as for me, I think it is not one of those things that can be tagged as AS vs NT. I dream vivid dreams with strong feeling attached to peculiar things. I occasion dream movies, or dreams that seem to follow the course of a plot as if I'm watching a movie, but I'm inside the story for some. Others have a famous cast (Paul Newman has shown up, Gerard Depardieu, Olivia Hussey was in one some 20+ years ago). Sometimes I swear it's all real, or I could swear I did something I have yet to do because I dreamed it. I had recurring ones as a child about friendly aliens who wanted me to join them on a trip, only to leave me behind when I ran inside to tell my mom.

But that wasn't your question. I have no answer more than this for it, though. I have always been more of an audience than a conscious participant. I react to things in the dream, but never with the awareness that I am dreaming. I run, try to scream, fly, laugh, sing... but I'm never lucid. I enjoy my dreams immensely though, so that even nightmares, which I rarely have anymore, seldom bother me. I sometimes wish they were controllable. So I write about someone who can control theirs.


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22 Dec 2008, 3:44 am

This happens to me quite often, however I notice during the morning after a lucid dream, I feel less rested than one without. The best night's sleep for me occurs when the next morning I hardly remember what dreams I had.



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22 Dec 2008, 5:33 am

Lucid dreaming can be learned and there are a few very simple things you can do to start making yourself have these type of dreams more often. I had one flicker of a lucid dream once and found it so exhillerating, so liberating, that I researched the hell out of them.

Get the book "lucid dreaming" by steven Leberge

Watch the movie "The Waking Life" (extremely popular indy film about lucid dreams- rated R for lots of F words. This movie might give you a lot of fun things to think about.)


When I researched lucid dreaming and read everything LeBerge had published I started implimenting some of the training he suggests and started having lucid dreams within a few days.

the simplest three things you can do:

1. throughout your day, whenever you think to, ask yourself if you are dreaming. No matter how confidant you are that you are not dreaming, consider the possibility that you may be and ask yourself sincerely, at this moment am I dreaming?

2. throughout your day, when you are along and no one can see you, jump with both feet a few inches off the ground. do this as often as you can bear to and make sure gravity feels normal.

3. throughout your day, when you see words- like on signs or in books, take time to notice the words closely and see if they are shifting around or not.

The more often you do these things the sooner the same behaviors will start coming into your mind in your dreamlands. What happened to me is that a few days later I was involved in what I thought to be a normal waking- day scenario when I remembered to consider whether I was dreaming. I could tell I was not, but still I jumped off the ground since I was alone, and I drifted slowly to the ground, at which point i knew 100% that I was dreaming, and I took off flying.

The 1st excersize conditions you to check for dreaming, the second checks for our brains inability to acurrately replicate the feeling of gravity, and the third (as you will certainly find out if you try to read words in a lucid dream, and then try to read them again) tests for dreams by looking for the way words go wavy, shifty, and letters fade in and out and shift orders. Our brains have a hard time replicating words (as evolved apes i can see why)



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22 Dec 2008, 5:37 am

Secondly,

my aspie wife has many lucid dreams while I (NT)have much fewer. a few weeks ago she had such a bazaar sequence of dreams within dreams -kept waking up in bed but turned out to be in another dream- and finally realized she was dreaming in the last dream by grabbing a phone book and reading it only to discover, somewhat to her frustration, that all the names and numbers were meaningless and nonsensical. Dream.