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24 Jan 2009, 4:59 am

Does anyone know if workout supplements such as arginine AKG, creatine, yohimbe, and l-taurine affect aspergers? Pros cons? I got some free samples of nitric oxide enhancers (to give energy and endruance, and 1000g micronized creatine. I should probably give the names of the products ill be using... Higher power micronized creatine, Universal Nutirition Shock Therapy, Spice apple, clearshot energy booster, Nano9x hardcore... for starting. I've already taken one heaping teaspon of creatine, roughly 3 grams. Then 3 pills of the nano9x, two servings of clearshot, shock therapy is for tomorrow. Needless too say im feeling energetic, but not nervous even though I just consumed 250mg caffeine in the clearshot alone.



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24 Jan 2009, 5:09 am

Ill tell you guys how I feel after I finish working out. Hopefully someone will have an answer or helpful response. What I can tell you now is, I FEEL GOOD! hehe



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24 Jan 2009, 6:55 am

I feel great! Weak but great.. Did flat bench, incline, then decline close grip benchpress, followed by 8 sets of deadlifts... That was an intense workout, I almost puked!



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24 Jan 2009, 4:45 pm

The only supplement I use is dried egg whites. I used to use some other stuff like Twinlab's Ultra Fuel but I stopped once I went on the Paleolithic diet, but I've always eaten as much protein as I possibly can, about 1.3 grams of protein per pound body weight per day.



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24 Jan 2009, 8:57 pm

Alright, well I don't know what it was exactly butttt.... I ended up puking twice, holding a insanely rapid heartbeat for multiple hours, even when laying down, soon after my i feel great post. So... Nitric oxide +250mg caffeine, and tuarine is a no go..



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25 Jan 2009, 4:06 am

well based on the research i've done and what i've heard from my friends this is what i have to say about what you're taking

nitric oxide: makes you feel good but doesn't really yield any extra gains or increase recovery time

creatine: helps with recovery time A BIT and helps with strength A BIT but it isn't a big amount and you don't really need it

taurine: doesn't really help your workouts much

caffeine: this is the only thing i've seen improve my workouts. it helps my cardio and makes me able to hold a higher intensity for slightly longer.

arginine: don't really have much experience with this one but i don't expect it to really have much effect on your gains.

in my opinion, make yourself a good diet, maybe use protein shakes if you're low on protein, but the rest is just extra money spent that won't really give you big gains so it's generally a waste of money.



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25 Jan 2009, 7:01 am

beef_bourito wrote:
well based on the research i've done and what i've heard from my friends this is what i have to say about what you're taking

nitric oxide: makes you feel good but doesn't really yield any extra gains or increase recovery time

creatine: helps with recovery time A BIT and helps with strength A BIT but it isn't a big amount and you don't really need it


caffeine: this is the only thing i've seen improve my workouts. it helps my cardio and makes me able to hold a higher intensity for slightly longer.

arginine: don't really have much experience with this one but i don't expect it to really have much effect on your gains.

in my opinion, make yourself a good diet, maybe use protein shakes if you're low on protein, but the rest is just extra money spent that won't really give you big gains so it's generally a waste of money.


I have a great diet, I am clean bulking, eating over 1 g protein per lb of bodyweight per day, and about 2g per lb on intense deadlift/bench/squat basically compound excercises and the day after. 2800-3000 calories a day. I also have whey protein twice a day, when i wake up and post workout as advised by many pro bodybuilders/trainers.

Nitric oxide gives you a pump, which can actually increase endurance and energy, while increasing intake of nutrients flowing through the blood due to the pump. I've also read that it increases focus, which happened both times I took these arginine products. Arginine is supposed to increase nitric output from what I have read. I have experienced quite a large abnormal pump taking hemodraulix today, another product which includes arginine. I also took creatine today, and my military press is up 20lbs, which is crazy! I think it had to do with the pump, it gave me more confidence and a lust to lift more.

Creatine I've seen help a lot of people get past their plateaus. It voluminizes the muscle cells with water which increases the size of the muscle, increasing strength. Of coarse it does more, but I won't get into it. For only 19.99 I can get 1000grams, which is A LOT of servings. Definitely over a months worth, and worth the money, whether or not it increases my strength very much.

The clearshot contained ginger root extract, which makes you HOT! I think that is what was the main cause of why I got sick and threw up, because the second time I threw up I broke out in a cold sweat just puking, and sitting down afterwards.. But a few minutes later I was cooled off and able to relax.

So basically, I'll be continuing the usage of these no/arginine pump products until the samples run out, and same with creatine.

On the note of caffeine, it can stunt growth. So I am definitely not using it pre nor post workout for anything except for when doing weighted ab excercises, which is in my opinion my most hated workouts and great for making me getting them done faster.



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25 Jan 2009, 10:39 am

Heartcooksbrain wrote:
Nitric oxide gives you a pump, which can actually increase endurance and energy, while increasing intake of nutrients flowing through the blood due to the pump. I've also read that it increases focus, which happened both times I took these arginine products. Arginine is supposed to increase nitric output from what I have read. I have experienced quite a large abnormal pump taking hemodraulix today, another product which includes arginine. I also took creatine today, and my military press is up 20lbs, which is crazy! I think it had to do with the pump, it gave me more confidence and a lust to lift more.

I know what it's supposed to do, but in terms of real world gains, none of my friends that have taken it have noticed any difference after taking it. they felt the bigger pump and thought they were doing better but they didn't really gain more than they would have without it.

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Creatine I've seen help a lot of people get past their plateaus. It voluminizes the muscle cells with water which increases the size of the muscle, increasing strength. Of coarse it does more, but I won't get into it. For only 19.99 I can get 1000grams, which is A LOT of servings. Definitely over a months worth, and worth the money, whether or not it increases my strength very much.

creatine increases the amount of creatine phosphate in your muscles which allows you to lift more since you use CP for energy primarily during lifting exercises, as opposed to glycogen or fat. it also increases water retention and makes your muscles bigger because of this but that's mostly an aesthetic thing and doesn't really add to the effect. most people i've spoken to are stronger on creatine but a lot of them stopped because they didn't find it made them gain muscle much faster. my only caution with creatine is that you make sure you drink a lot of water. if you don't drink enough water you can develop kidney problems (and trust me, kidney problems REALLY suck).

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On the note of caffeine, it can stunt growth. So I am definitely not using it pre nor post workout for anything except for when doing weighted ab excercises, which is in my opinion my most hated workouts and great for making me getting them done faster.

you're 19, aren't you done growing yet? i wouldn't worry too much about it stunting your growth, research has not shown this to be a side effect of caffeine. i really only find caffeine helps me with cardio. it increases the amount of free fatty acids in your blood so it allows your body to burn that energy more efficiently and can increase your aerobic performance significantly. i only use it for races and tests since i have found it to have a strong effect on performance.

one of the reasons i haven't tried a lot of these supplements is because i'm not really lifting weights at the moment, i've got to work on my aerobic fitness more than anything and i'm powerful enough for my weight that i don't really need to do weights for a while. also creatine adds a lot of water weight, which really doesn't help you make weight for a competition.



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24 Jun 2009, 4:34 am

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These include strengthening muscles and the cardiovascular system, honing athletic skills, weight loss or maintenance and for enjoyment. Frequent and regular physical exercise boosts the immune system, and helps prevent the "diseases of affluence" such as heart disease, cardiovascular disease, Type 2 diabetes and obesity. It also improves mental health and helps prevent depression. Childhood obesity is a growing global concern and physical exercise may help decrease the effects of childhood obesity in developed countries.
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26 Jun 2009, 12:45 pm

a general reply is that while it is technically possible to have one effect or the other to a greater or lesser degree than the mean from at least one supplment it's unlikely to be noticeable in any meaningful way.
there probably no major studies regarding this as much as I know of caffeine might be looked at and I'm not sure what it does differently if at all.

as much as protein goes well assuming casein has any effect at all then increased protein diet might worsen AS symptoms which I doubt yet again to have any potency.
most powders are whey concentrate which don't have the caseine bit

other than that 3grams daily is very little (or did you mean X9 = 27gr?) constant ( no cycle intake) is around 5 or more grams typically...

so that's all I can comment atm.



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08 Apr 2019, 6:56 pm

I have used many of them and I must say caffeine had creatine blend had great effects on my body. As cafffeine helps boosting heart rate and provides large amount of calories , creatine on the other hand help you store more ATP (post energy) while workout. If you are looking for a brand name, I went for FitMiss Delight Protein Powder as it features a high quality blend of fruits and vegetables, including apple extract, barley grass, blood orange, broccoli, strawberry, and cranberry extract, among other things. It follows Keto diet which is the most natural one among all.