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28 Jan 2009, 6:06 pm

alright i don't really know in witch forum this belongs so i'll post it here.

a while ago i was lying in bed and all of a sudden i had a vision about the end of the world, or atleast humanity,it was somewhere in the future (i'm saying this so you won't see me as some crazy guy preaching the apocalypse), i saw a magnificent image of the sea swallowing all of the land, and the people had nowhere to turn, some fled, others went mad, but the sea swallowed all, all the machines all the vile polluting things. it was so serene, how the sea washed it all away and let it rest at her deepest depths, swiping away all traces of what was, and after a while this could have been days or years or centuries, a small island popped up, and the whole cycle started again, i was so relieved that one day all the evil that we as a collective do too this world (it is inevitable but still sad) will be washed away so a new start can be made, perhaps that's why the water is here, too provide life, and take it by force.

just wanted to kind of share that. :wink:


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28 Jan 2009, 6:11 pm

Similar to Ragnarok, except that the sea was snake's venom and even the gods were destroyed.


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28 Jan 2009, 6:18 pm

ragnarok huh.
perhaps it was because of my ancestry i had this vision :wink:


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28 Jan 2009, 8:08 pm

"Vision" or waking dream?

Prophetic visions are supposedly sent by God. However, He already promised that He would not use flooding to destroy the Earth again, so that implies one of the following:

    1) God is going back on His word.

    2) Another God-like being is going to flood the Earth.

    3) The vision was just a dream.

    4) You've made it all up.
Which is it? :?


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28 Jan 2009, 8:15 pm

I'm guessing it was a daydream or an early-sleep dream. In either case, it is quite poetic.

I don't think there is enough evil in the world to mandate a second Flood, though; there's still good here. Everyone who hasn't given up on it completely knows in his heart what good is; and that we haven't forgotten it is enough evidence for me that there's still hope.


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28 Jan 2009, 8:22 pm

Genesis 9:8-17 (New International Version)

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Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: "I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living creature on earth. I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."

And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth."

So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth."

Commentary: God's promise was shown when He placed the rainbow in the sky and said that never again would the world be destroyed by water/flood. This flood was a once only event, never to be repeated by God.

So if there is a God, then Lithium's dream/vision was not prophetic ... or God has gone back on His word, which He spoke not once, but three times in the passage quoted above.


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28 Jan 2009, 8:33 pm

Or else it was allegorical. Water is strongly associated with both cleaning and global warming. No wonder it combined in that way.


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29 Jan 2009, 3:18 am

Fnord wrote:
"Vision" or waking dream?

Prophetic visions are supposedly sent by God. However, He already promised that He would not use flooding to destroy the Earth again, so that implies one of the following:
    1) God is going back on His word.

    2) Another God-like being is going to flood the Earth.

    3) The vision was just a dream.

    4) You've made it all up.
Which is it? :?


i'm not a christian, i hang by my own religious belief wich i call universalism (unless that one already exist, then i have to find a new name) my personal beliefs are that everything in the world and universe is connected both in mind,soul as in body and that god or gods, are beings whom exist in a higher plane of existence but are still bound by the connections. now that has nothing to do with matter at hand but just to illustrate that i'm not a christian.


it was not a waking dream since i was not asleep at the time it happend before i went to sleep.

also im not saying it's gonna be a flood, perhaps it's the effect of global warming and i just saw it in fast forward.


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29 Jan 2009, 3:37 am

Fnord wrote:
So if there is a God, then Lithium's dream/vision was not prophetic ... or God has gone back on His word, which He spoke not once, but three times in the passage quoted above.


Or the water in the vision was symbolic. After all we don't claim Joseph as a false prophet because sheaves didn't get up and bow down, and the sun, moon and stars didn't do some celestial waltz where they all bowed down. Typically dreams and visions are to be interpreted symbolically. Pharaoh's dream about 7 fat cows being eaten by 7 skinny cows was not about cannibal cows. Nor was his vision about 7 fat ears of grain being eaten by 7 thin ears.

Even Peter's vision of the sheet with unclean animals in it wasn't about food - it was about people (Cornelius specifically). Peter didn't take the vision literally and arise, kill and eat Cornelius or any of the other animals in the sheet.

So take the waters to mean something else. The peoples of the earth for example.



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29 Jan 2009, 6:47 am

In other news, boat prices have recently drastically increased.


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29 Jan 2009, 11:09 am

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lithium wrote:
alright i don't really know in witch forum this belongs so i'll post it here.

a while ago i was lying in bed and all of a sudden i had a vision about the end of the world, or atleast humanity,it was somewhere in the future (i'm saying this so you won't see me as some crazy guy preaching the apocalypse), i saw a magnificent image of the sea swallowing all of the land, and the people had nowhere to turn, some fled, others went mad, but the sea swallowed all, all the machines all the vile polluting things. it was so serene, how the sea washed it all away and let it rest at her deepest depths, swiping away all traces of what was, and after a while this could have been days or years or centuries, a small island popped up, and the whole cycle started again, i was so relieved that one day all the evil that we as a collective do too this world (it is inevitable but still sad) will be washed away so a new start can be made, perhaps that's why the water is here, too provide life, and take it by force.

just wanted to kind of share that. :wink:


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29 Jan 2009, 11:33 am

Fnord wrote:
"Vision" or waking dream?

Prophetic visions are supposedly sent by God. However, He already promised that He would not use flooding to destroy the Earth again, so that implies one of the following:
    1) God is going back on His word.

    2) Another God-like being is going to flood the Earth.

    3) The vision was just a dream.

    4) You've made it all up.
Which is it? :?


I was about to write, if he knew the Bible, God promised that he would never again destroy the earth with water. He even placed the rainbow on the sky as sign to go along with the promise. Just started to check if there was anyone who also pointed this out.
The final destruction of the earth is by fire.
I don't think the starter of this thread is lying or anything, but if the end of the world is laying heavily one somebodys mind, that person is bound to dream or even have some kind of vision about it.


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29 Jan 2009, 11:56 am

Water is also a metaphor for God and God's love. The world can be swallowed up in God's love and then reborn. Of course, lots of people wouldn't understand at the time.
The thing about the rainbow as a promise never to flood the world again is only true if you accept the bible story as literal and true. If not, there are other possibilities to this dream.
The Hindu's believe in a similar cycle of world creation, I think.

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29 Jan 2009, 12:25 pm

lithium wrote:
alright i don't really know in witch forum this belongs so i'll post it here.

a while ago i was lying in bed and all of a sudden i had a vision about the end of the world, or atleast humanity,it was somewhere in the future ...


Is quite common, don't worry; all of those prophecies failed till now. So: Have a cup of coffee and read something nice.



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29 Jan 2009, 4:00 pm

I've had lots of visions of the apocalypse from people I know, so it's quite common.

The economic downturn can do funny things to people's heads.

I honestly wouldn't try to worry about it.

I try to put any disturbing prophesies out of my mind if I have frequent visions.

I think it's the depth mind at work.


Some of the things you see could be potentially useful revelations, but others things...

Are probably just the imagination running riot.