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KiyokosOnlyOnigiri
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02 Mar 2009, 3:24 pm

Well, anyway... I was supposedly an Aspie for (at least) 10 years, along with severe depression. I'm 17 now, and was at the time of my most recent diagnosis...

...which is now ONLY severe depression. I was all 'what the eff?' at this. (It happened a few months ago, so apologies if it's out of date.) My former counselor also disagreed, as I was only around A) adults and B) people I knew well enough that I didn't act terribly idiotic around, which also hit the above category. If I was around peers or younger people, I seriously believe there'd be quite a difference. But that's not the point.

I feel it's important to post the above, because I'm now going to ask:
Should I still post on here anymore with this new diagnosis?
I know some of you have a hatred of 'normal' people, so I felt I should ask. I don't really see myself as normal, but I do not know if I should or should not.


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02 Mar 2009, 3:30 pm

KiyokosOnlyOnigiri wrote:
Well, anyway... I was supposedly an Aspie for (at least) 10 years


I'm in a similar situation to you.
My dx has been in contention for 18 years.

Now no-one knows if I'm AS or not.
There's evidence on both sides.

I wish they'd make up their minds...

"What the eff?" indeed.


Some of us are becoming very confused by all of this.:?


Knowing who I am would be useful.

As for whether you "should" continue posting or not, I don't have a clue.
You could switch your dx status in the menu list.
If posting here helps you, keep posting, if not then stop.

I don't honestly suppose anyone will mind either way: it's your choice, your account.


I think there should really be another category called "past AS dx" for people like us.



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02 Mar 2009, 3:39 pm

Even if your AS was totally in permanent remission, you are and should continue to be welcome here.

However, from what I read there are plenty of people with "on the bubble" diagnoses around here. If you were once "in" and once "out", then most likely at least one of your assessments was wrong. It is not an exact science.

Certainly, whatever you have to say now is every bit as valuable as before, maybe even more so, as other people might gain insight from your experiences in diagnostic limboland.



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02 Mar 2009, 3:51 pm

It's only a matter of opinion whether anyone has it. Given how smart many of us are, I question whether it should even be called a syndrome.



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02 Mar 2009, 3:59 pm

MikeH106 wrote:
Given how smart many of us are, I question whether it should even be called a syndrome.


Seconded.



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02 Mar 2009, 6:02 pm

KiyokosOnlyOnigiri wrote:
Well, anyway... I was supposedly an Aspie for (at least) 10 years, along with severe depression. I'm 17 now, and was at the time of my most recent diagnosis...

...which is now ONLY severe depression. I was all 'what the eff?' at this. (It happened a few months ago, so apologies if it's out of date.) My former counselor also disagreed, as I was only around A) adults and B) people I knew well enough that I didn't act terribly idiotic around, which also hit the above category. If I was around peers or younger people, I seriously believe there'd be quite a difference. But that's not the point.

I feel it's important to post the above, because I'm now going to ask:
Should I still post on here anymore with this new diagnosis?
I know some of you have a hatred of 'normal' people, so I felt I should ask. I don't really see myself as normal, but I do not know if I should or should not.



Don't worry, we don't hate you. Or at least I don't. I think I know how you mean. Asperger's is very very high fuctioning, you feel like the adverage person, you don't know that you have it until you reconize a few things.

1. Strong focus on favorite interests
2. Can't tell if someone is angry at you or reconize any kind of silent social cues
3. Strong Anger / Depression


I too feel that I'm Aspie and at times not. That's why I also identify as Androgyne / Bigender because I knew that my gender difference wasn't associated with AS because I have friends from College that have AS and their gender is adverage.

So I joined whatisgender and cripes, they were MEAN! So I joined Laura's Playground ever since.

But don't worry, your welcome here. Most of us our nice, then there are Aspies who have very short tempers, but don't let them get you down. They are just having tough lives, we all are. But don't worry, your welcome here.

Make yourself at home.

WELCOME TO WRONG PLANET! ;)



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03 Mar 2009, 2:51 am

melissa17b wrote:
If you were once "in" and once "out", then most likely at least one of your assessments was wrong. It is not an exact science.

Certainly, whatever you have to say now is every bit as valuable as before, maybe even more so, as other people might gain insight from your experiences in diagnostic limboland.


Living in Limboland.
That pretty much sums it up.

I really wish it was an exact science with a clear unbiased test. A lot of the rest of medicine seems to be measurable at least. Sometimes AS don't seem like proper science at all to me.

I've been afraid to go to the doctors sometimes for fear that I will be talked to in a patronising way (more than the usual social anxiety). My family had openly admitted that there were times when I was physically ill that because they were worried as to how I'd be treated with the AS label.

It seems where I come from, if you have an AS label people treat you with fear, suspicion and like a child who can't think for his/her self. If you don't have an AS label, you're spoken to like a normal adult. That's been my experience anyway and was one of the reasons why my family tried to get rid of the label. They wanted me to be treated like a "normal" person because all the condescending talk/negativity was not helping me positively at all.

See thread:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt92201.html

which is an opinion on the current state of AS support services in my country.

I sometimes think that some folks in the healthcare system must get a kind of strange satisfaction out of playing around with people's senses of selves and lives.

That's what the AS label has been for me: it's been a direct attack on my sense of self. View all of my personality traits in purely negative ways: make a list of them and you have the AS dx. Some people I've known who've seen what I can achieve would think this was complete non-sense.

That's why I sometimes think that I'm leading a double life sometimes.
If people really knew about my past they would be shocked and surprised.
It's like somebody's idea of a sick joke.

They diagnose you with all this stuff when you're little (in my country) when you're too young to take responsibility for your own actions and then offer no positive, helpful advice or productive support.

Why bother dxing all these people if it's not going to help them be productive in society?

Why give them a label that's only going to attract further stigma and discrimination?

How is keeping me in doubt and not informing me about what AS entails supposed to help me?

I thought that the whole point of making a medical diagnosis was to try and help the patient?

I sometimes wonder what I have done "wrong" and what people really want from me. I don't think I'm alone in this. If you're not suffering from your personality
(which I don't, my personality is my personality) they'll make you "suffer" for it.
I only ever "suffered" for being myself when people said that I should "suffer". When people accepted me for who I was (when my AS label was removed) and actually treated me like a human being: I didn't suffer.



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03 Mar 2009, 6:16 am

KiyokosOnlyOnigiri wrote:
Well, anyway... I was supposedly an Aspie


Now I'm Aspie...

Now I'm not...

Now I'm Aspie...

Now I'm not...


I wish they'd make up their minds! 8O


This is my life and other people's lives we're talking about here, not a skipping rhyme!


I wish that I could somehow apply for a kind of "dual citizenship" meaning that I wasn't condescended, but could talk about AS facets of my personality and those in others openly without fear of being stigmatised.



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03 Mar 2009, 7:53 am

Stay, if you've been one of us for 10 years there's no reason to consider yourself outcast now, besides your not entirely unique I too am very high functioning, and my dx was always pretty borderline on the Aspie side.

Besides hatred to humanity (or NTs, not really much diffrence) isn't healthy or justified. Don't let it affect you.

AmberEyes wrote:
I really wish it was an exact science with a clear unbiased test. A lot of the rest of medicine seems to be measurable at least. Sometimes AS don't seem like proper science at all to me.


All psychology is like that (not the psychologists fault, its just a very hard subject to get accurate results for). In fact when I did psychology as an AS level they include proper scientific technique for that exact reason.



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03 Mar 2009, 8:33 am

If you want to stay, then stay!

I don't have Asperger syndrome but I'm here! :D


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10 Mar 2009, 4:26 pm

The severity of my diagnosis was also brought into question by my psychiatrist who deals with asperger's patients. She puts me on the border of aspie and NT, which means I do have it, albeit to a more mild degree. Because she felt depression and anxiety were my downfall and not AS, she put the focus on these two areas. This may be the case with you. The symptoms of depression may be more severe than the symptoms of AS, therefore masking them. This leads me to one question, where did you get undiagnosed?



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10 Mar 2009, 10:15 pm

Yes, continue to post! If you think you're an Aspie, or want to be an Aspie, you're welcome here!



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11 Mar 2009, 3:04 am

I don't think it really matters what the doctors think. What do you think? When you read through a list of symptoms, do they fit? Are you borderline? Nobody can ever know you as well as you do, so you can never completely trust a label that someone else gives you, unless you believe it yourself. Especially, now that your older.


Either way, I think you should stay. You are just as welcome now, as you were before you saw the Dr. :)


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12 Mar 2009, 10:09 am

Of course you should stay. What kind of 'experts' came up with the differing diagnoses?

When I went for a Dx, it was stories like yours that prompted me to get a written Dx on the letterhead of a huge mental hospital, signed by a psychiatrist and backed up by signature of a PhD psychologist.

I told them I want something that will act like a sort of diploma that nobody will ever argue with. So that's what I've got. The wording is exactly lifted from the DSM, and the last line is that I am dx'd with AS.

It took two years! But I got it and if anybody disagrees, they can go argue with the huge hospital.



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12 Mar 2009, 6:51 pm

i would say stay,

if you feel like an aspioe, then you should keep posting, regardless of what they actually diagnose you with :wink:


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25 Mar 2009, 4:44 am

TheKingsRaven wrote:
AmberEyes wrote:
I really wish it was an exact science with a clear unbiased test. A lot of the rest of medicine seems to be measurable at least. Sometimes AS don't seem like proper science at all to me.


All psychology is like that (not the psychologists fault, its just a very hard subject to get accurate results for). In fact when I did psychology as an AS level they include proper scientific technique for that exact reason.


I've purchased a few A-Level Psychology revision guides.

I'm informally studying Psychology now.

I'm doing this now to prepare myself for any hostility regarding my past dx that I may meet in the future. I also hope that by studying the subject, I will be able to help myself to some degree. I'm having to do this because other people have not been understanding or helpful. No-one has ever given me a proper or supportive answer: this is why I wish for a clear medical "litmus" test.

I'm having to take matters into my own hands. In the future, I may have to be my own therapist to avoid the stigma of having to go and see a therapist. People aren't that understanding in my country.

After doing some reading on Psychology, I'm starting to appreciate how tricky it is to quantify the human psyche and emotions.

What if AS itself is the origin of all scientific "behaviour"?

What "proper" scientific technique do you mean?