How to meet non-crazy women?

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16 Mar 2009, 3:45 pm

It seems that every woman I meet is loony, neurotic, or close to it. I recently emailed somebody off a personal ad and she indicated she was interested in me and sent pictures. So I sent pictures back and asked her to call me, since I was uncomfortable calling her (she gave me her number). Her second email said "are you the guy sitting next to me at the library right now?" and I'm all WTF? So I called the number she gave, and she claimed not to have any idea who I was, and she indicated that she has sex with random guys she meets over the net and some of them she doesn't know their names. She had indicated quite differently in her first response. Once it became clear that she really didn't know who I was, I hung up. I thought wow, that's weird. Also, my old high school gf recently contacted me through Classmates, and it soon became clear that she was even crazier than she was 15 years ago. (At age 18, a guy is so horny he really doesn't care whether his partner is bonkers.) I've had other experiences with neurotic and not all there women. They seem to be all I get. How do I meet a woman who isn't crazy yet isn't totally turned off by AS?



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16 Mar 2009, 3:56 pm

I couldn't tell you, dude. But when I can you'll be the first to know...

Aspie = Weirdness Magnets?


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16 Mar 2009, 3:58 pm

Crazy is a contrived act. It's a front put up to scare you off, so that she doesn't have to work up the courage to tell you "no".


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16 Mar 2009, 4:02 pm

Uh, Pezar, to the best of my knowledge, the internet is full of loonies. Assuming that's how you're meeting women, that could be your number one problem. You throw in the addition of a dating site, and VOILA--instant problems. I've heard too many stories. My advice is your first move is to get off dating sites. My second bit of advice is to go with the flow, and when you meet a woman with whom you'd like to try a relationship, provided she's not in one already, approach her and be honest and ask her if she'd be interested in chatting over coffee or something. Honestly, you can't go wrong with that unless she just doesn't want to for her own reasons.

If this is off the internet, then I have no idea what's going on. Maybe you're expecting women to conform to your own standards, in which case you're s**t out of luck. I can speak from my own perspective that I'm an emotional disaster, easily upset, can't help but be indirect, etc., and that is the way of many, many women, unfortunate as that may be for you and those like you. There are always fitting women, I believe, those with AS, those who're much more stoic, whatever the case, those with AS have much more spcific needs all around. With such needs, it's not fair to expect everyone will be able to meet those for you, since everyone has their own agendas and personalities.

And I'd be hard pressed to believe you haven't heard the stereotype about all women being crazy. Many go through abuse, which makes things far worse. Just use good judgment whenever and where ever you can.

Make sense?



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16 Mar 2009, 4:13 pm

It's hard to find anyone who isn't crazy. If you have Facebook, just read all your friends' status updates. If they aren't bored, tired, or complaining, they're begging for attention with obscure quotes, random sayings, and immature ramblings. There's a reason why they say you have to love people for their faults. You just need to find people with faults you like.



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16 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

Why would you want to? Crazy women are the most interesting. Somebody without any problems is just... Boring. I like the challenge of trying to break through hangups like that; I guess it's a reassurance, like being the exception to the rule is proof that your relationship is meaningful.


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16 Mar 2009, 4:41 pm

Scorpio82 wrote:
It's hard to find anyone who isn't crazy. If you have Facebook, just read all your friends' status updates. If they aren't bored, tired, or complaining, they're begging for attention with obscure quotes, random sayings, and immature ramblings. There's a reason why they say you have to love people for their faults. You just need to find people with faults you like.


That my friend is absolutely spot on...

And for the person who started the thread.

You only attract "the nutters" because you don't value yourself highly enough to attract people who are well rounded and together.

Once you get over the fact you are broken and see AS as a blessing, you will make better CHOICES and have more meaningful relationships.

There are plenty of nice women who like guys with AS.

There are 6.7 billion people on the planet. Unless you are bi-sexual that means at least 2 billion to choose from over the age of consent.

By the laws of probability what you are looking for is out there.

I found mine :-)

Wanna know how?

Read my book :twisted:



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16 Mar 2009, 4:41 pm

Bob Rocks. :D

the first thing to do is not to be crazy. You have to go and meet a LOT of different people off line and see that everyone is so different!

We are not all crazy. And some of us are crazy sometimes and not at others.

Depends on what you mean by crazy, too. Bernie Madoff was not crazy. But I would rather have Layne Staley in my arms than B. Madoff. Crazy mean is bad. But sane mean is bad, too.

Crazy people are scary, true. My dear crazy friend killed himself, but he was a joy to be around when he was alive.

My ex did not kill himself, but he was an ass and he was sane.

Look for nice, kind, loving.........

I hope you find a good lady so you do not get bitter. We are not all bad.



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16 Mar 2009, 4:55 pm

The sad irony of the whole dating scene - at least in my opinion - is that the whole thing appears to be one giant double standard.

Speaking as someone who is starting over in his 30's, it seems - at least from what I've seen - that anyone less than perfect is unacceptable in the minds of many, many women. There are only so many PhD's with the bodies of Greek gods running around the world, and if we don't meet their standard of Prince Charming, we are the ones expected to change.

Yet we must accept them as they are. We have to change our flaws, but they do not. And even if they do accept us - at first - they feel they have the right to change us to suit their own desires. But when we ask them to make a change, they try to guilt trip us.

We also better be ready to chat over caviar and lobster-tails, not coffee. You want to date? Better build up a savings account, because with very, very few exceptions, "low-maintenance woman" appears to be an oxymoron. I figure starting over in my 30s, I will need to have a six-figure income in order to be a serious candidate. Why? Because from my own observations, most women under the age of 40 in this day and age are "gold-diggers" extraordinaire, and have an unrivaled sense of entitlement to everything they want simply because they look good. Hell, I saw an add for an "introduction service" for "affluent men" the other day.

And also, what are AS men supposed to do when there are no more AS women in the dating pool? Pretend to be NT and pray they don't have a meltdown/shutdown in front of her friends? Oh, yes, and on the subject of meltdowns....it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to overtly display emotions, but not a man.

This sounds nasty, but I am calling it like I see it. And even though many here will disagree, let's face it - if you are here...you are not the norm. You are the exception, not the rule.

Out there, in the real world....

You are a celebrity, an uber-jock, rich, or just a thug....

Or you are nothing.

I would really like to be proven wrong on this.......I really, really would.


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16 Mar 2009, 4:55 pm

The sad irony of the whole dating scene - at least in my opinion - is that the whole thing appears to be one giant double standard.

Speaking as someone who is starting over in his 30's, it seems - at least from what I've seen - that anyone less than perfect is unacceptable in the minds of many, many women. There are only so many PhD's with the bodies of Greek gods running around the world, and if we don't meet their standard of Prince Charming, we are the ones expected to change.

Yet we must accept them as they are. We have to change our flaws, but they do not. And even if they do accept us - at first - they feel they have the right to change us to suit their own desires. But when we ask them to make a change, they try to guilt trip us.

We also better be ready to chat over caviar and lobster-tails, not coffee. You want to date? Better build up a savings account, because with very, very few exceptions, "low-maintenance woman" appears to be an oxymoron. I figure starting over in my 30s, I will need to have a six-figure income in order to be a serious candidate. Why? Because from my own observations, most women under the age of 40 in this day and age are "gold-diggers" extraordinaire, and have an unrivaled sense of entitlement to everything they want simply because they look good. Hell, I saw an add for an "introduction service" for "affluent men" the other day.

And also, what are AS men supposed to do when there are no more AS women in the dating pool? Pretend to be NT and pray they don't have a meltdown/shutdown in front of her friends? Oh, yes, and on the subject of meltdowns....it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to overtly display emotions, but not a man.

This sounds nasty, but I am calling it like I see it. And even though many here will disagree, let's face it - if you are here...you are not the norm. You are the exception, not the rule.

Out there, in the real world....

You are a celebrity, an uber-jock, rich, or just a thug....

Or you are nothing.

I would really like to be proven wrong on this.......I really, really would.


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16 Mar 2009, 5:20 pm

LordKristov wrote:
Because from my own observations, most women under the age of 40 in this day and age are "gold-diggers" extraordinaire, and have an unrivaled sense of entitlement to everything they want simply because they look good. Hell, I saw an add for an "introduction service" for "affluent men" the other day.


Date someone older then...

Women over forty are a lot of fun...

Go watch Harold and Maude :-)



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16 Mar 2009, 5:38 pm

A what? :wink:


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16 Mar 2009, 6:03 pm

funnymachine wrote:
And for the person who started the thread.

You only attract "the nutters" because you don't value yourself highly enough to attract people who are well rounded and together.

Once you get over the fact you are broken and see AS as a blessing, you will make better CHOICES and have more meaningful relationships.

There are plenty of nice women who like guys with AS.


Well, this sounds like it was over the Internet. And on the Internet, that is what you're going to get. Women who for some good reason are isolated. But since an Aspie is typically quite isolated when it comes to women their quest for a woman equally ends up on the Internet. It seems easy for isolated people to attract each other and Internet habits bear that out. Since I'd like to think I can meet a wider range of women than just the crazy ones, I have stopped seeking to meet women online.



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16 Mar 2009, 6:50 pm

Hi :wink:



Oops sorry .. I thought this was about meeting crazy women. :oops:
I don't belong here.


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16 Mar 2009, 7:04 pm

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16 Mar 2009, 8:38 pm

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I wanna have sex with your new avatar, betty I think


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