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28 Mar 2009, 1:52 am

Ok I like never ever ever read soon a mom got me a twilight book for chrismas within the next week and a half i have all four books read >.> two of the books took me only 1 day >.> im curious was anyone else here completely obssessed with twilight or vampires? on and fyi i now started reading all kinds of vampire books >.>



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28 Mar 2009, 2:44 am

LOVE vampires! :skull: < there's no vampire icon, but close....


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28 Mar 2009, 3:35 am

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28 Mar 2009, 6:41 am

I am realy into vampires, I have the Twilight books (got them for christmas) but havent read them from lack of time and partialy out of not liking there version of vampires. I do have a couple of non novel books one on the different vampire myths around the world called 'Vampire Universe' a very good read for those in different vampire things and a book called 'Vampires; the ocult truth' on some of the modern ideas. I am a fan of vampire movies, one I would recomend would be 'Dracula 2000' (not 'Dracula 2000' that was awful), 'Dracula' (the 1992 version) and I would also say the anime 'Hellsing Ultimate' (there are curently 4 volumes in English and the main charcter is an inrcredibly powerful vampire). Underworld is another great series of movies though I am not usualy a big werewolf fan I found myself more into the Likens in the latest movie. Now I think I should stop ratteling on about vampires.


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28 Mar 2009, 2:43 pm

I love vampires which is precisely why I hate Twilight. They are NOT vampires.

1) No fangs.
2) Daylight turns them SPARKLY. Ew.
3) The main vampires don't suck human blood. In fact there's barely a drop of blood in the entire freaking book. WTF is the point of a vampire book without blood?
4) They aren't gothic. They dress in trendy/preppy clothes. WTF is the point of preppy vampires?
5) The vampires have a goddamn cross in their house.
6) Each vampire is given a different "power" when they're made. So basically, they're prettyboy superheroes.

I could go on and on. I understand that each vampire universe creates its own rules, but to throw everything that makes vampires, er, VAMPIRES out the window crosses the line.



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28 Mar 2009, 4:00 pm

no no no I am sick of hearing about that damn twilight.
If hear twilight mentioned anywhere again I will turn insane


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28 Mar 2009, 4:03 pm

I liked the movie when I first saw it, well-written, well-acted, etc, but I'm fed up of HEARING about it by now. Just cos everyone fancies that guy. :roll:


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28 Mar 2009, 5:03 pm

Veresae wrote:
I love vampires which is precisely why I hate Twilight. They are NOT vampires.

1) No fangs.
2) Daylight turns them SPARKLY. Ew.
3) The main vampires don't suck human blood. In fact there's barely a drop of blood in the entire freaking book. WTF is the point of a vampire book without blood?
4) They aren't gothic. They dress in trendy/preppy clothes. WTF is the point of preppy vampires?
5) The vampires have a goddamn cross in their house.
6) Each vampire is given a different "power" when they're made. So basically, they're prettyboy superheroes.

I could go on and on. I understand that each vampire universe creates its own rules, but to throw everything that makes vampires, er, VAMPIRES out the window crosses the line.


When I saw the title of this thread I was going to come on here and say exactly what you said. The "vampires" in Twilight fail to be vampires in practically every way. I couldn't believe they didn't even have fangs in the movie, do they have fangs in the books at least?



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28 Mar 2009, 6:50 pm

I've always loved the idea of Vampires but the BEST absolute BEST Vampires I've ever read about were the ones in Brian Lumley's Necroscope Series;

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These guys are really dangerous and make the worst of Twilight's Vampires look like puppies.
Heck, they make Dracula seem dull.

In fact, when I first read Necroscope, I started to feel ill around the page 50 mark - before there are any Vampires in it - (something that has never happened to me before or since in a book). I decided to give it about 50 pages more to turn itself around before I threw it out. In the next 50 pages it became the best book I've ever read.

I didn't like the first Twilight book but I think that was mainly because my expectations were set all wrong. I loved the second and third but can't talk about 4 yet. Of course, I'm reading it like it's a "scary" Mills and Boon, not like it's a Vampire story.



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29 Mar 2009, 12:38 am

As soon as I read that Meyer's vamps could be out during the day I was turned off. Learning about the distinctly anti-feminst subplots only cemented it.

I did, however, want to see what all the fuss was about and ended up stumbling across these:

http://cleoland.pbwiki.com/Twilight#Boo ... ionentries

The author recaps all 4 off the books in the series in gloriously detailedm acerbic fashion. Utterly hilarious.


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29 Mar 2009, 1:02 am

I love the series. My favorite that I've found in the past year or two.

Don't know if you guys who hate it have noticed, but EVERY vampire story reinvents them somewhat. I have no problem with that. And in fact, the vampires in the Bellaverse are probably the most powerful, most scary I've run across.

The Bellaverse vampires do NOT all get extra powers (and I think its cool that some do), and they're extensions of how they were when they were human.

And how often do the "good" vampires in ANY series drink blood? There's plenty more vampires in the series than the Cullens, and regardless, they're still plenty interesting and cool.

And come on "dress gothic"? WHY? Few vampires in ANY series dress weirdly. They're almost always trying to fit in. In fact they HAVE to try to fit in in the Bellaverse... (Note that "fit in" is not the same thing as "don't kill humans"...you'll know what I'm talking about if you've read at least through book 2).



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29 Mar 2009, 2:09 am

Wolfpup wrote:
Don't know if you guys who hate it have noticed, but EVERY vampire story reinvents them somewhat. I have no problem with that.


I have noticed it, (and I don't hate the Twilight series, I'm fine with it - actually quite enjoying it, though the first was a bit dull compared to 2 and 3). It's normal for every Vampire story to reinvent itself - even to the point where different versions of the same story (Dracula) completely change things.

Wolfpup wrote:
And in fact, the vampires in the Bellaverse are probably the most powerful, most scary I've run across.


Not quite sure how you got that but I guess you haven't read far...

In Brian Lumley's world, every Vampire has a whole heap of PSI Powers but some have extras. One could kill with a glance, many could read minds, one could read the memories of dead things by tasting it in their marrow and Harry Keogh... the best/worst of them could steal powers from the others - as well as open doors between universes, times and places... and of course, converse with the dead - even call up their remains to help him.

They also tended to make vast flying flying beasts (like manta rays) out of dead flesh - they didn't eat everything.

Bella's vampires are sock puppets by comparison.

Most of the the ideas from Twilight have been used before; the powers obviously, subsistence on animals in the execrable Return To Salem's Lot and of course Love beyond death in Dracula. The fight between the two supernatural beings (spoilers withheld) has been around a long time too, most notably in some recent Kate Beckinsdale films.

What makes Twilight special (imho) is the depth of romance and emotion surrounding the characters. I've not seen this in any vampire story before. It comes close in Bram Stoker's Dracula but not quite.



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29 Mar 2009, 2:57 am

Yeah, I mean I haven't seen/read every vampire thing by far. Of the stuff I have though the Bellaverse vamps are really powerful-no real weaknesses, and stronger and faster than a typical vampire.

I thought of the Undeworld films too when a friend was describing Twilight to me, but I think there's a lot more similarity with Roswell than anything (though they're very different too).

I'm just sad I'm already part way through book 4 :-/



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29 Mar 2009, 3:18 am

Wolfpup wrote:
I'm just sad I'm already part way through book 4 :-/


I'm about finished book 3 but I've been cheating. I read the first book but since these days, I'm too tired to be reading books, I got the AudioBooks of all four read by Ilyana Kadushin. Since the Twilight series is mostly written in first person, it works amazingly well to have her as Bella.



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29 Mar 2009, 2:09 pm

I'm reading (well, slowly) the first book. Not great.

I think the fact that everyone talks about it is not helping. Kind of overrated.


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29 Mar 2009, 2:42 pm

Veresae wrote:
I love vampires which is precisely why I hate Twilight. They are NOT vampires.

1) No fangs.
2) Daylight turns them SPARKLY. Ew.
3) The main vampires don't suck human blood. In fact there's barely a drop of blood in the entire freaking book. WTF is the point of a vampire book without blood?
4) They aren't gothic. They dress in trendy/preppy clothes. WTF is the point of preppy vampires?
5) The vampires have a goddamn cross in their house.
6) Each vampire is given a different "power" when they're made. So basically, they're prettyboy superheroes.

I could go on and on. I understand that each vampire universe creates its own rules, but to throw everything that makes vampires, er, VAMPIRES out the window crosses the line.


Quoted for truth.


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