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are the moderators fair here?
oh yes, always they are fantastic! 16%  16%  [ 5 ]
no, they are far from impartial. 16%  16%  [ 5 ]
they are ok, probably could be less overly authoritarian *shrugs* 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
I could do better to be honest, they're just people like everyone else 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
some are ok, others are really not 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
I'm don't want to vote, one of them targets me unfairly! 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
ah well, it's an imperfect world - if they try to do it well then it's a step in the right direction 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
who cares, it's just an imaginary power anyhow lol 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
none of the above 19%  19%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 32

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29 Mar 2009, 4:58 am

I am a total n00b here but I am concerned as to the moderation policies here, is it acceptable to members here that moderators act like demigods and delete entire threads at a whim? I speak only of one moderator - to clarify - not the entire staff...

I have had no interaction with any mod other than moshi. I apologise if it seems a redundant topic but I am shocked tbh - I have received pm's since I registered where people have complained or been in fear of the wrath of moderators! That would be wholly unacceptable on the site i spend time on mostly.

here's a reply I posted to a PM moshi sent him after deleting threads - including my intro thread and in the process of giving me 'a second warning' - I won't post their pm as I want to adhere to site rules, I don't know if it's allowed and I don't really want them deleting this thread too :lol:

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hmm, I think it is fair enough to initially register to contend abuse about our website - that doesn't constitute that I was upset - on the contrary I was having fun about it - the prejudice that 'conspiracy theorists' (we don't use that term actually) often find in general society is something that we have had to get used to - you might understand that yourself if you've ever received any prejudice - it sucks, doesn't it? --rhetorical

I don't think there was a need to remove the other thread at all - I was not abusive and everything was plain and straight - I moreover think you deleted it because it exposed your own prejudice toward those investigating deep politics and the anomalous.

Another member of this site has in the last moments pm'd me actually - and confided that you are indeed somewhat partisan and 'anti-conspiracy theorists' - whatever dude. who cares? I don't - I just put in down to a rather myopic paradigm - unfortunate for the world and the individual themself..

Yes, I can well believe you had been a teacher judging by the style of your moderation, no offence intended.

I also have previously lectured but I feel that my own style of administrating is nowhere near as trigger happy and censoring as yours.

Thanks for the second warning - no thanks for deleting a third entire thread.

I would hope that you put it back considering that it did not infringe on any of the site rules regarding personal attack.

I think you deleted it because you were possibly being shown to be overly autocratic.

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I voted for the 'who cares, it's an imaginary power anyway!" option



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29 Mar 2009, 1:35 pm

[Moved to the appropriate forum by moderator sinsboldly]


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29 Mar 2009, 2:02 pm

The only complaint that I have about how WP is moderated is that I'm not a part of it.

:lol: (... right ... me, a moderator ...)

Otherwise, even when I've needed to be reminded to mind my manners and behave, it's been done with respect for my individuality and consideration for my feelings.

Now that Senpei Mac is a mod, I feel even better about how well WP is being run!



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29 Mar 2009, 2:19 pm

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[Moved to the appropriate forum by moderator sinsboldly]


LOL you also edited the options on my poll to include none of the above - or if not you a different mod. I'm amazed at how much control the mods exert here as if it were a perfectly normal way to moderate - no offence intended - I am not being sarcy i am really genuinely flabbergasted.

editing posts, deleting entire 5 page threads and then putting them back cropped, deleting any criticism of such actions.. I'm not wishing to stir the pot but I think someone should say something!

Within hours of registering here I had received 2 pms off people talking about the arbitrary use of position by certain mods here - come one! that's not a good sign!

Anyhow - there was no need to edit my poll because you thought it needed it - there's loads of polls on this site with just yes and no as options - no don't knows no none of the above - it feels a little bit over the top - I would never edit members posts on the site where I mostly am! unless it was something really brutal and callous that was said - I guess we're just more laid back -seems to work though people feel ok and it's civil even when intense *shrugs*

But - I don't want to piddle you off about it - I stated my opinion in the moment and that was that...



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29 Mar 2009, 2:38 pm

In the majority of cases, you have to actively be trying to piss off mods and break rules in order to get in trouble here.

Fnord wrote:
The only complaint that I have about how WP is moderated is that I'm not a part of it.

:lol: (... right ... me, a moderator ...)

Of course. It'd be heck of a lot easier if this was a dictatorship... just so long as I'm the dictator.


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29 Mar 2009, 3:04 pm

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Now that Senpei Mac is a mod, I feel even better about how well WP is being run!

Sucking-up to mods did work for some people in the old days, here, Fnord, but I think you may be clutching at straws, now.



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29 Mar 2009, 3:21 pm

I think you have to remember that this is a unique community, and the moderator team tries hard to be responsive to the needs of the core membership, which is individuals who have AS. The moderators mostly likewise are AS and, thus, are going to moderate in a different style than NT's would.

This is also a very public site, and that effects the way moderation is seen, as well. You have to give thought to what the visitors see, and what they learn about AS when they read here. AND it's a privately owned site, so it's the mission of the owner that gets advanced, and not that of any particular group in the membership.


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29 Mar 2009, 3:53 pm

Also, reading the site rules when registering would clear up a lot of false expectations as to what you can and cannot do on WP.

As registering commits you to following those rules, I don't see why it is such a shock that the moderator would hold you to your commitment.

And 2 comments out of 25,505? well, draw your own conclusions.


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29 Mar 2009, 4:26 pm

Yes, for sure these are all pertinent points obviously. I was relieved in terms of equanimity to see the 5 page thread restored tbh - I can't help wondering if it was partially because I did in effect make complaint that it had been removed - as I said to the mod in another thread that was deleted I had no problem whatsoever that my comment had been deleted if it was found inappropriate and in contradiction to the stated site rules - of which I did have a read - but it seemed entirely unfair and unjustified to remove 5 pages of other peoples' comments who were completely uninvolved.. but it's back now, as said - so that's good - I'd feel weird actually to think someone elses' thread was killed because of a comment I made in response to someone branding the website I'm an admin on as being 'populated by a bunch of morons who talk about giant UFO's making crop circles' etc.

I simply objected as it seemed really wrong to badmouth a site and slander it when clearly they knew nothing about the present actuality of the place and it just seemed like a gratuitous flaming in public - I think it was a bit of a surprise for someone from the site to actually appear and respond *shrugs* .. and I responded in public as that's where the defamation had occurred - and I was relatively mild, I didn't swear grossly or anything.. but whatever..

I'm sure I might have ruffled a few feathers thus far - it isn't really my intention - I just believe in speaking my mind with honesty - I'm not looking to create enemies here - I actually find some of the discussions I've been reading refreshingly vibrant and candid.

And in terms of categorisation well, I'm certainly not 'NT' and definitely find/have found enough problems sociologically - for what it's worth.

sinsboldly - it might have only been 2 comments, sure but it was nevertheless surprising to receive such PM's simply because I was questioning the prudency of a specific action my one of the mods..

Anyway, I hope that I continue to have discussions as fascinating and potentially intellectually stimulating as those I've found whilst here today.

I'm glad I was pointed here - I hope that I haven't offended anyone too much and I look forward to continuing participation. because it's a cool board imo. thanks :)



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29 Mar 2009, 5:01 pm

Thank you, Concenik, we wanted you as a member, too. That is why we only edited the posts that violated the forums' rules of badmouthing another site and put them back when they were stripped of those posts so the conversation could continue. It is a time consuming process and with Spring Break and all, we are functioning near capacity. Had it been a bit faster you would have seen our original intentions and it wouldn't have been such an issue.

So. . .welcome to WP, make yourself comfortable and enjoy our unique take on life.

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30 Mar 2009, 1:05 am

well, I imagine that being a moderator, here, would be a hard or dirty work to do

well, no mod is perfect, that's obvious to grasp, but any place in the web without moderation would be a chaos or uncomfortable for some to participate in a discussion, just take a look at youtube as an example ;)

Given that, PPR has seem to be very tame compared to other places, despite complains, which is thanks to how things are run here.


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30 Mar 2009, 4:39 am

Throwing in my pennyworth I think the mods do a good job on this site. Threads seem to flow nicely without mod intervention, even on controversial topics. I've not seen many posts or threads disappear over the year I've been a member. Those that have been deleted tended to be full of blatant foul mouth abuse or malicious taunting of other members.

I think the balance is right here. I take part in some other web forums that are unmoderated and they are a cesspool of abuse and there is so much personal nastiness between some members it hinders open debate.

Similarly I've quit using other web forums for over strict moderation, nothing annoys users more than lots of posts disappearing, seemingly for a whim by a draconian moderator - the site I refer to once had thousands of members, now it has barely a handful because users just gave up posting or visiting the site.


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30 Mar 2009, 5:17 am

I Dont Know? Where are the moderators?
I think there like everyone else no big boss and that is i think good or not?

I write Mr. Alex long time ago a letter that my account bud i never got a letter back.
Is Mr. Alex a bizzy person maybe?

After all its good that Mr. Alex have the oppurtionitie to buold this forum to a fantastic autism forum.
My compliments. :)



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30 Mar 2009, 10:54 am

ascan wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Now that Senpei Mac is a mod, I feel even better about how well WP is being run!

Sucking-up to mods did work for some people in the old days, here, Fnord, but I think you may be clutching at straws, now.

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30 Mar 2009, 1:11 pm

^^I think Fnord should moderate the PPR forum :twisted:


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30 Mar 2009, 2:14 pm

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^^I think Fnord should moderate the PPR forum :twisted:


(Hmmmm. Throwing Christians to the lion eh? :wink: )


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