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17 Apr 2009, 3:40 pm

I am not a Muslim , i am a Jew but i am facinated with Pakistani and Indian Muslim Culture, The Most amazing thing about many Indian and Pakistani Muslims compared to Sikhs and Hindus is that you could get Some Pakistani and Indian Muslim families who could trace Persian, Arab, Afghan (Either Pashtun or Tajik) Turkish (The Turkish i mean is from Central Asia) or Mongol ancestry as well as having ancestors who were Hindu Converts to Islam, if you are a Pakistani or Indian Muslim who Knows about your own ancestry, please confirm whenether you have Turkic, Afghan, Persian or Arab ancestry, otherwise please send in your surename and your Mothers surename before she Got married.

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17 Apr 2009, 6:02 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

i used to have contacts with an aspie who is a Pashtun [Afghan-pakistan] that was convinced and had some very good points into the theory of the pashtuns being on of the ten lost tribes of israel
http://www.fazliazeem.com/research/pathanresearch.htm bnei breet in pakistan

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18 Apr 2009, 5:19 am

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well i do not thank most Pashtuns were descendent of Lost tribes, before the advent of Islam like many Land I think there was a Jewish Minority in the Pakistan and Afghan Border, in my opinion before Islam, i think Most of the ancestors of the Pashtuns were Buddhist with Zoroastrianism, Jewish, Greek, Hindu and Shamanistic Minorities.

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18 Apr 2009, 6:59 am

Laconvivencia wrote:

I am not a Muslim , i am a Jew but i am facinated with Pakistani and Indian Muslim Culture, The Most amazing thing about many Indian and Pakistani Muslims compared to Sikhs and Hindus is that you could get Some Pakistani and Indian Muslim families who could trace Persian, Arab, Afghan (Either Pashtun or Tajik) Turkish (The Turkish i mean is from Central Asia) or Mongol ancestry as well as having ancestors who were Hindu Converts to Islam, if you are a Pakistani or Indian Muslim who Knows about your own ancestry, please confirm whenether you have Turkic, Afghan, Persian or Arab ancestry, otherwise please send in your surename and your Mothers surename before she Got married.

lol you may be taking the 'inappropriate special interests' thing too far my friend

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20 Apr 2009, 1:06 am

I'm a former Muslim (transformed into a Baha'i now). I belong to the Lodi clan of the Ghilzai Pashto tribe, I have Persian, North Indian, South Indian, Arab, and Russian ancestry. My family has lived in India since the Lodi conquest of the north, and the last person to speak a dialect of Pashto in my immediate family was my great-grandfather.

My surname is Khan. My mother's surname was Abdul Aleem before she got married, her father was a South Indian Muslim, distantly related to Tipu Sultan's family. My grandmother's family, however, is mostly Persian and Arab.

As far as I'm concerned, Pashtos orignially practiced a varient of the Indo-Iranian polytheistic faith. After a period of time, many converted to Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, and possibly Manichaeism. Regarding Greek influence in Bactria, I see no evidence showing Greek influence on the Pakhts, however, there's some genetic and religious influence over the Dards (regarding religion, before they converted to Islam) of Nuristan and the Kalasha of Chitral.

Interesting theory on the Pashtuns being one of the lost tribes of Israel.

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20 Apr 2009, 1:30 am

Khan_Sama wrote:

I'm a former Muslim (transformed into a Baha'i now).

When did that happen?

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20 Apr 2009, 3:25 am

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Russian ancestry, i think you mean Turkic and Mongol ancestry.

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20 Apr 2009, 4:31 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:

Khan_Sama wrote:

I'm a former Muslim (transformed into a Baha'i now).

When did that happen?

My official declaration was on the 28th of Febuary. I considered myself a practicing Baha'i sometime during early January.

No Laconvivencia, Russian. There's some cossack blood in my family, through my father's maternal side. As for Turkic and Mongol ancestry, I assume all Pashtuns have this ancestry to some extent, as Hazaras and Turkmen are numerous in Afghanistan. The Turkmen became twelver Shi'a much later on.

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20 Apr 2009, 7:13 am

I'm more interested in Iranians, to be honest.

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20 Apr 2009, 9:25 am

nara44 wrote:

that was convinced and had some very good points into the theory of the pashtuns being on of the ten lost tribes of israel
http://www.fazliazeem.com/research/pathanresearch.htm bnei breet in pakistan

The idea of the lost tribes doesn't hold water. There is no Jewish race, this has been genetically disproven. The Dan tribe (Ethiopian Jews) do not share a common root with say Jews in Eastern Europe. The whole common root is a myth. Judaism is a culture or meme, just like there were never actually a Celtic people but rather a Celtic culture.

Many Jews are a pretty similar in make up to the Palestine Arabs, as are most Caucasians

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